...Sure you can. It's called an App-Or-ittion.

@All

According to Dr. Stiffler, water is a good lube.  So, maybe we don't have to mix in oil in a two-stroke engine?
I have an old 50cc 2-cycle Honda motor scooter.  The engine is electric start with auto injected oil system.  If I try to run it on water, should I leave the oil reservoir dry or add soluble oil?  Regular oil won't mix with water.  Soluble oil may change the reaction?  Any suggestions?

Tishatang

DrStiffler,

It would be wonderful if a person such as yourself could assist and be involved with the practical developments of the process and effects as described in this thread. For anyone who, understandably, has concerns as to the validity of the premise that the energy output exceeds the electrical energy input in this process, then I must strongly urge them to read and study a paper that was previously mentioned a few posts ago and was found and shown to me by my good friend Ben, who has now done some good research on this topic.

The paper was published by Cambridge University Press and was written by Peter Graneau from Northeastern University Boston USA and Neal Graneau from Oxford University UK. The title of the paper is, "Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy". It is an excellent paper that fully supports and describes what we have seen in the basic and simple experiments described in this thread. Ben found the paper here as follows:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/WaterFuel1978/files/

Stephan has also uploaded the paper here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get93

The paper clearly explains that the output energy is NOT from any H2O dissassociation and ignition process but simply an electrochemical process where the hydrogen bonds of the H2O molecule, that causes water to remain in a liquid state, are broken by an electric plasma pulse which converts the water into a dense fog state. A fog state is where the H2O molecules are not bonded with each other to form a liquid state but are unbonded and densely dispersed with air to form a fog.

Quotes: "Experimental observations leave little doubt that internal water energy is being liberated by the sudden electrodynamic conversion of about one-third of the water into dense fog", "The loss of intermolecular bond energy in the conversion from liquid to fog must be the source of the explosion energy", "This bond energy is said to be equal to the latent heat of evaporation, and therefore could contribute up to 2200 J g^-1."

So there is already some good academic science behind what we are seeing in this process. I have no doubt that the effects we have seen, as well as other effects yet to be discovered which you yourself have found, can be used and utilised to build a working engine or motor that is powered solely by pure water. Regardless if the result turns out to be a completely new design and form of engine or a simple retofit to existing engines, the goal in the end is the same although the later would have a more rapid impact in terms of the application of the technology.

So I am very encouraged and pleased by your interest in this thread and some of the basic tests you have already done to see for yourself if there is anything real in the claims made. I hope that more important and serious researchers, like yourself, can come together to openly assist and work on what has been described in this thread for the benefit of all.

Regards,

Ossie

Blew up a brand spankin' new inverter tonight!! Don't know why but I hooked it up to the battery and to the rectifier, turned it on and all was fine. I didn't have the neg side of the HV hooked up but as soon as I hooked the pos side up to the battery the inverter blew. Could it be because I have to switch polarity on the IC?? Anyway, hooked back up to the wall outlet and used 2 old heater elements I had laying around as resistors in the low voltage side and it worked without blowing the diodes this time, I'm using 8 5408 diodes. I can definitely tell the arc gets bigger when water is introduced. I'm gonna try some steam tomorrow afternoon and see what happens. If I get good results I might post a vid. This is cool! lol

Bumfuzzled and All,

If you are going to use inverters as your power supply please avoid using new and modern inverters that are all HF semiconductor based and are effectively the reverse of a switch mode power supply and does not have a large standard transformer in it. These modern inverters, because they are all semconductor based, will be very sensitive to any reverse HV spikes and you will blow the semiconductors in them quite easily. The best inverters to use are the older type that are very heavy because they have a large transformer in them. They work in reverse to a normal step down mains transformer and use transistors to oscillate at 50-60Hz the 12V side of the trnasformer. The 110-240V side is just the transformer's output winding. So these inverters are much more tolerent to HV spikes as the transistor's are protected by the transformers internal winding insulation, although even this does have a limit.

I do NOT recomend people use inverters unless they are either qualified or experienced in working with mains power voltages as the output of the inverter is lethal and the same as your house mains power point.

Regards,

Ossie