Quote from: atlantex on July 20, 2008, 11:36:41 AM
Hello Ossie,

what about using your schematic for an alternative ignition system? Did you test it with gasoline? The thought behind my question is it to reach a result in saving fuel like the firestorm spark plugs can do.
Would it be possible to put a drop of gasoline directly to the spark plug and turn on the maschine?

And before people screeming that it is to dangerous, I know that using a sprayer with gasoline would be dangerous, therefore I ask for a drop of it directly on the spark plug.

thanks,

atlantex

OK....i gonna be the stupid one....i put a small amount of gas on the plug and fired the plasma...WOW!!!!! it was f-ing awesome!!!!

That's nice. At least we could use it to use lean gas mixture and save some bucks 

QuoteOK....i gonna be the stupid one....i put a small amount of gas on the plug and fired the plasma...WOW!!!!! it was f-ing awesome!!!!

this sounds great, so the next thing is to create a circuit which uses the original HV impuls to trigger the plasma system.

@Ossi, is there still a grounding problem with your latest circuit (without HV coil)?


atlantex

@xbox hacker

QuoteOK....i gonna be the stupid one....i put a small amount of gas on the plug and fired the plasma...WOW!!!!! it was f-ing awesome!!!!

LOL, it's good to see someone take the bull by the horns and run with it

@ALL
While the goal is to run on water there are alternatives, When I was 16(a very long time ago) I was running a 1600cc VW engine in a sand rail dunebuggy on 80% methanol + 1 liter octane booster. This would "cook" the engine in about 3 minutes I figured as the plugs had a "white" residue on them, think very very HOT. Most motor heads would tell you to increase the fuel to "cool" the engine as we do today but I did the opposite----I leaned it out further, and added a proportional water injection system .
The water vapor cooled the combustion chamber because every Kg of water added had to absorb 2257Kjoules of energy before it could flash to steam, the expansion ratio for water to steam is around 1:1000 so I got my good expansion ratio thus power without excessive heat running as lean a mixture as I wanted. There is actually a very interesting power curve here mid-throttle where decreasing fuel but not air or water results in decreased power so a gas engine can run like a diesel engine. So varying the fuel only can act as a form of speed control---a very efficient one at lean mixtures as the EGT is low.
With this explosive water arc ignition system very lean mixtures could be combusted in a consistent, reliable manner which was always the main issue I had to contend with. As well the lean mixture plus low EGT means emissions like NOX will be very low. Maybe a compromise between a pure water engine and a lean burn gas engine is an easier option for some----me for instance-- I like easy.

I tested the injector assembly and it didn't work so well. The injector nozzle I'm using sprays a very fine mist, what we need is a fat stream of water to immediately fill the gap in the spark plug to cause the explosion. The injector nozzle couldn't fill the gap enough due to being a fine mist. It would eventually just fill the entire thing full of water and it would just sit there and bubble like a HHO generator and every once in a while it would pop and shoot all the water out of the assembly. I used my hand sprayer with the nozzle screwed out to shoot a stream and it would fire everytime in my injector assembly. I even pulled the assembly apart and had the plug laying in the open with the injector nozzle spraying right next to the plug and it wouldn't fire, but the hand sprayer with a fat stream of water made it fire everytime. So, I've got a couple more designs in mind but again I'll have to wait til I get to work tomorrow and ummm "borrow" some stuff to make it with. One design will hopefully allow a much bigger arc IF enough power is used.