Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on August 10, 2008, 10:51:19 PM
I will only post information and have converstaions on the mag drive site where i can remove the government contractors and clowns from steorn.

This is most definately my last post here. if i knew how to delete the profile i would, but no one knows.

Yes - you would rather go somewhere that you can censor the content.
Too bad there's no one there for you to rant at.
And this would be the 4th? time you've run off crying never to return. 
Funny how the evil, foaming, cursing quinn returns when his b.s. is exposed.

Having a 4 hr flight delay now added to my 2 hr. layover - I put these quotes together to alieviate the boredom.  Read them for insight into the b.s., for historical purposes or for a good laugh.  Or even ignore them.
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Quote from:  Archer Quinn
"i must bring several point to your attention, there is no donate button, there is no payments or cost of any kind, and this is the second machine, the first built 2 years ago, and was destroyed after contemplation that without oil millions will die in arab countires with no income or work, simply because those with the money would keep what they had knowing there was no more to come. Then after seeing the pictures of Dubai, i saw that this was a result of trillions of oil money being spent on a city whilst the country and surrounding nations remained poor. Hence i decided to rebuild the machine."
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Donate button appeared later.  The device destruction story is one of the silliest I've ever heard.

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on April 27, 2008, 04:33:00 AM
If i was just attempting it, i would say exactly that, but as this is not the first working machine i am unconcerned.
tonight's writeup should help clarify why you can steal from gravity with huge weights and little lift.

If you had, would, or EVER would tell the truth that you ARE ONLY ATTEMPTING it and had NEVER HAD A WORKING MACHINE many might have worked with you and had a different opinion.

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on April 29, 2008, 08:35:21 AM
I was said i can kick Newton?s ass 6 ways from Sunday, it was not figurative, i can build 6 devices that have different principle components, some using similar physics others not.

Yes - you think Newton is a dumbass.  Rather than 6 half-finished devices, how about 1 working one?

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on April 30, 2008, 03:51:10 AM
But you all still miss one basic component both in the physics and the math, so you need to keep going back to why satlellites don't fall

Here is quote 1 of you saying satelittes won't fall.

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on April 30, 2008, 05:04:37 AM
every school child know that gravity keeps the satellites in orbit and acclerates them

Here is quote 2 of you saying satelittes won't fall.
And you also incorrectly state that it accelerates them while mainting orbit.

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on April 30, 2008, 05:55:48 AM
not all satellites hanve thrusters number one, and number two clown, the are trajectory thruster to correct orbits, not velocity thrusters you bloody moron. Complete bs that they travel at that speed from gravity?!!!! you better go an tell NASA then you jerk.  there is only one power on or off the planet capable of that speed, the true reason sattleites travel that fast after launch and the reason we are here today on this forum. Gravity.

more crap

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on April 30, 2008, 07:58:38 AM
no the smot is an unrelated device

But you couldn't get anything to work - so later switched to smots

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 01, 2008, 04:24:49 AM
So to reiterate true physics, satellites are propelled by gravity

Quote from: capthook on May 03, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
The notion that the gravity of the earth provides acceleration to a satelite in a 'static' orbit is sheer nonsense.  The only way acceleration is imparted is as the orbit decays.
To maintain orbit is a careful balance.  Too far out, gravity is insufficient, resulting in it flinging out to space.  Too close, the orbit decays too quickly, causing it to fall to earth.  Just right, and the orbit will decay very slowly with each revolution requiring minimal energy input from the rockets to maintain the proper height to keep it in orbit.
The point is - the orbit WILL decay with each revolution requiring additional energy input from the system to maintain orbit.
It is NOT receiving 'free acceleration' energy from the gravity of the earth!

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 03, 2008, 07:31:05 PM
if garvity and being pulled down at 30,000 miles an hour is not acceleration on an object, then i don't know what is. I must be so so dumb

that's 5 quotes from archer showing his ignorance on satellites.
One problem is - he states that this (flawed) logic is the main inspiration for his device.

Quote from: capthook on May 03, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
With the inaccuracies and suppositions put forth with this current incarnation of OU - I am just suggestion caution before pouring too many resources into it.
The 'whipmag' comes to mind.  Hundreds of people devoting countless hours and resources on a questionable device with little to show for it.
I certainly hope for the best - but there a many reasons for prudence.

Quote from: sigmaX on May 07, 2008, 05:20:50 PM
Hi people:
I was reading archer?s website, full of hope. But then I read this:
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here is a tip, a water turbine/generator at a local waterfall can generate vast amount of power when tons of water pour over the blades, yes???
the generator is so large (10 ton turbine )that to turn it must have one ton torque to turn it, but there is a drought, the local council puts in steps and a lift connected to the turbine , ten locals at 100 kgs each walk up the steps and step on
the lift, the one tone weight of the locals turns the turbine until they reach the bottom of the steps again.
the local council guy sees this working and says hey instead of all the guys walking up the stairs, lets put 900 kg on the lift and one guy can walk up the stairs, they do this and it works once, as the 900 kgs, is now stuck at the bottom, so the local council puts in an arm on the side of the turbine with 900 kgs on one end and 900kgs on the other end, they position the arms at 1oclock and 7 oclock, there are 2 landings also at this point, a man steps on the end of the arm at 10 oclock and it turns round to 7oclock where he steps off and the next guy steps on the other end at one oclock and the wheel turns for as
long as this happens. there is no physics in the world that can dispute this, nor any common sense. what science fails to realize is that i am turning a 10 ton turbine with one man weighing only 100 kgs. science always thought of Newton and the equation of pounds falling x gravity etc, and never did any equations exist for environment already existing. need to try this at home?
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Is it just me and my ignorance, or this is just plain "bullshit" ?

if you place an arm with 900kg at each side, place each side one at 1 ocloclock, the other at 7 oclock, then the guy that adds the 100 kg extra steps in the 1 oclock arm ..... NOTHING HAPPENS!!!   the torque needed is 1 ton. If the arm had only one side, with 900kg already in it, placed at 1 oclock, then YES, it would go down, and stop about 7 oclock... but THIS WONT HAPPEN if there is another side of such arm with also 900 kg doing the opposite work: the 900kg cancels themselves, and the real torke is just 100kg.

Quote from: sigmaX on May 07, 2008, 09:52:32 PM
It still stands that the text Mr. Quinn wrote, and I quoted about four posts earlier, is a very obvious fallacy, and as such places Mr Quinn in rather poorly grounds as far as seriousness go... I wonder, WHY did he, anyway, wrote such an obviously flawed story,

And there it is the (in)famous 1000kg wheel, 100kg man story.
Marbles in his head......

Quote from: Sprocket on May 07, 2008, 11:49:28 PM
Hi.  Yes, I have to agree with you on this, I noticed it when I read it on his site but assumed it was an innocent mistake - as I'm sure it is...

Quote from: maw2432 on May 03, 2008, 01:46:30 PM
if you unbalance a wheel -  only the weight that is applied to make it unbalanced would be measurable output. 

Quote from: capthook on May 03, 2008, 04:58:28 PM
You are correct - a balanced 1,000 kg wheel that is put out of balance with a 1 kg weight will only offer 1 kg of 'energy potential'.

Many knew the 100kg story was flawed and showed archers mental prowness to be that of a 7 yr. old but decided to ignore it, forgive it or overlook it.  Strange.

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 03, 2008, 08:42:19 PM
ok i will tell you the ring pole magnet setup was the power sorce for the orignal wheelalthough i will not confirm it until then, you should get this before the 20th.
this is my last post until then. You don't need luck so i won't wish it.

Floating ring pole magnets for power? Huh?
And no more posts until June 20?

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 04, 2008, 03:53:10 PM
Hi all, i did day that that would be my last post until i released the machine details, and although not built, i feel i should do this now (just in case) in any event if it is built by someone else first it does not matter, so long as it is built, this way the will be no 20th of june let down if i don't get it completed on the exact day, and if something happens
to me or the sites then it is too late for the MIB, so give a about 15 mins and i will type out the instructions.

oops - that was quick to post again.
But you just wanted to let us know you are posting the plans.  Thanks!

Quote from: P-Motion on May 04, 2008, 10:10:34 PM
  If you have a 1kg weight on the outside edge rotating a 1,000kg wheel, then the mas to net force ratio would be 500:1.
Basically, without resitence, it would accelerate at 1/500th of 9.8m/s/s.

That's 0.0196 m/s or .0643 feet/s or 0.7716 inches/s
very, very, very, very slow (barely moving)

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 05, 2008, 03:53:26 AM
Downloading instructions to site tonight, and full specs on the 20th machine or not.

That was May 5th! 3 months later - still no instructions or specs!

Quote from: oak on May 07, 2008, 05:00:52 PM
In an email I asked Archer a couple of follow-up questions.
1.  On his "build" page, in the instructions posted at "7pm 5/05/08 oz time," Archer said:  "at 7 o?clock through to 9 o?clock the was an arc/curved electromagnet (looked like an I beam with the wire around the centre polarising both plates) it was flat I bent it slightly."
I asked:  since each of the three tubes is in a different plane (all parallel to each other), did you use three different electromagents -- one for each tube -- or did you make an electromagent that was wide enough to span the width of all three tubes?
Archer answered that he used three separate magnets, which he had purchased.

3 electromagnets?  You said 1!  And fancy getting ones with the exact specs to make it work at a garage sale!

Quote from: JohnGalt_USA on May 08, 2008, 01:07:46 AM
What really has me baffled is that even it you replace the 900kg weights with two blonds of equal weight it still does not work. But if you put a 100lb blond on one side and a 100lb redhead on the other side it spins like a freaking top. Give one of them a cheeseburger and it's like adding a turbo charger. It's so simple. Stupid Newton!

good humor!

Then comes the fulcrum 1/2 build.
He tries to apply the same flawed 100kg man logic to the new device and fails.
Here's a good rebuttal post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg95600.html#msg95600

Then back to non-working wheel.
Then trigates.
Then smots.
Then gate keys.
Then........

So - that's quotes from the first 11 pages.
It gets worse as time goes on.

Again:
Thanks for trying
Thanks for showing
Everything else - well - up your nose with a rubber hose.   

But now I grow more bored with this than staring at the back of the seat across from me..........

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on August 10, 2008, 10:51:19 PM
sorry mate, but this is not an overunity site of any description, this is no different to any other uncontrolled site where the oilmen have control of it. I will only post information and have converstaions on the mag drive site where i can remove the government contractors and clowns from steorn.

This is most definately my last post here. if i knew how to delete the profile i would, but no one knows.

http://groups.google.com/group/magdrive

This is where i will be, free of oil men.

C'mon Archer, not the "this is my last post" crap again!

Every time your own words back you into a corner and expose your false claims you run off whining about oil men conspiracies.

It's time to put your big girl pants on and prove us wrong by showing us a working wheel.

There was a John Galt IIRC that did an experiment with bions and I think it was radioactivity.

Not the same one by any chance?

Hey @AQ.  I see the medication is wearing off again. 

Don't worry about us engineers.  For months now you've been telling us we are over in the next week or two and I feel pretty safe still.  Last I looked Netwons laws are still applicable and the world keeps going as it is.

Anyway, best of luck seeing as how you finally have it this time. I'm looking forward to your Time Magazine Man of the Year article.

http://www.surphzup.com/gpage.html3.html

"the very reason until now I was unknown, you cannot walk into a company and say hey by the way i am one of the smartest people that ever lived do you have a job?"
because they would relize in 5 seconds that u r delusional u show on this thread lots of times u r barely smarter than a monkey

"This page will be removed over the next few days due to lack of interest and will be made into a download available for 5 dollars when you click on it"
at least its gunna be $5 instead of $2,000 for advance machine plans lafin so hard im cryin

"giving away trillions of dollars in technology without patent"
so we get trillions of dollars for only $5 thats a bargin 4 sure sign me up