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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on August 13, 2008, 08:35:49 PM
CAN YOU DEFINE "WORKS"?

THANKS
Thane

There has been some claim as to self running... but that sounds like Ottawa talk to me....

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/interference.htm

A lot of the info that was out there is gone now, as the latest version has become a bit more propitiatory. He was using fingers, rather than holes. His vapor carb work is also notable.

BC Ron

JustMe

Quote from: CRANKYpants on August 13, 2008, 09:18:01 PM
SORRY IN CANADA WE CAN'T MAIL BEER...

T

Well, we can, technically.  But somehow it never makes it to the post office.

(Behind the bench on weekdays, Suite on weekends, Canadian and/or Corona w/lime, pink)

Charlie_V

QuoteI HAVE BEEN DOING TESTS ALL DAY WITH A MAGNETICALLY BALANCED LOW DRAG ROTOR AT 10 TO 3500 RPM AND A COIL PRODUCING 50 V WITH AN INDUCTION MOTOR AND MONITORING THE MOTOR CURRENT DOWN TO 100 mA - AND FROM NO LOAD DOWN TO A DEAD SHORT THERE IS NOT EVEN 1/100th OF AN AMP INCREASE IN MOTOR CURRENT.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH (DIVERTING AND FAILING TO DIVERT) BACK EMF FOR 10 YEARS NOW SO I KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR - THERE IS NONE.

In that case close the loop.  If there is no back EMF then your generator should power itself.  If your coil is producing 50V (at what RPM?) then that is plenty enough to operate a small motor to spin the shaft - especially since you have "A MAGNETICALLY BALANCED LOW DRAG ROTOR".  Try a 6-9V motor to spin the shaft at the required RPMs.

Honestly though, what you are claiming is not what I observed.  I also had a place to send the flux.  Your idea of "balanced" is probably different from mine though.  Does it turn with the slightest push and revolve as though the magnets are not even there?  That is my definition of balanced.  If there is a force required to turn the rotor, then it is not balanced. 

Here is my design - its the same principle but the arrangement is slightly different.  Since the shield stays in the field, it is balanced at all times.  I observed back EMF in this device, and I proved its operation by measuring and mapping how the flux sets up during operation.  I used fairly good materials (a $2000 dollar ultra low carbon steel shield specially made by a shielding company - don't worry, tax payer money paid for it haha!)  The polarity of the shield and core are always the same and they cause a repulsion, which adds when the coil is loaded.  The back EMF itself is weak because the coupling factor between the coil and PM is low (in my design the shield was closer ~1/8" and thicker but the coupling was still low).  Magnetic drag will easily overshadow the back EMF.  Try looking at current changes on the order of 1mA.  It will be best to power your motor with a battery to reduce ripple.  Or, simply close the loop and see if it can power itself.  If it works - congrats, if not figure out why. 

I did not give up on the search for a reactionless generator, I gave up on this design.  Its good to be stubborn, just don't keep trying the same idea over and over when you see it not working, move on.  However, you seem to be getting results so keep it up and good luck!

i_ron

Quote from: JustMe on August 13, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
Well, we can, technically.  But somehow it never makes it to the post office.

(Behind the bench on weekdays, Suite on weekends, Canadian and/or Corona w/lime, pink)

Gee, I did my best to raise the class level of the group by mentioning BC wine... but I see it was a
wasted effort.... but fear not, I have found a car for you beer drinkers to match your tastes!

A nice Burberry Maserati, its always hard to beat a class act!

whiner from BC


Charlie_V

I should probably add that the coil and magnet in my design (shown above) were also stationary.  Only the shield (which was ~1/4" thick would spin).