Quote from: CRANKYpants on January 02, 2009, 09:12:05 PM
YES THANK YOU HV COIL.

CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?

BUT, I THINK YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE WE GET BETTER ACCELERATION FROM A LIGHTER PLEXIGLASS ROTOR BUT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT - I DON'T LIKE THE EXPLODING PLEXI ROTOR EFFECTS.
CHEERS
T

I am not so sure a 'proof of concept' motor needs to be large or complex. A couple of years ago there was this guy "Mike" that made a self running Bendini type motor that had multiple windings and some odd SCR parts.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1988.0
At first he was giving directions to people on how he did it but no one was unable to duplicate. Of course the 'this can be faked group' took hold and Mike finally gave up trying to help others while never stating he faked it. Looking at his post they were very sincere unlike most of the fakery ones. One of the problems he had was that the circuit diagram he provided was udderly confusing and did not match with the wiring from the pictures and videos. In looking back now I think one of his three windings was more like a "high voltage coil' since it had triple or more turns then the other two windings.
So lets look at a what if...
What if the HV winding  was internally shorted close to the termination point and the rest of the circuit attached to that winding was really useless. Everyone was presuming the circuit actually had to do something and were trying all sorts of variations of the circuit without success. Maybe it was as simple as a shorted winding. The other two lower turned windings (HC ?) might have produced enough power to charge the capacitor and keep the motor running while the shorted "high voltage' winding helped to cancel Lenz. Maybe Mike just had it right by accident. That would explain why when he tried to duplicate the motor it would not work. Just a thought for others to ponder.

Quote from: hydrocontrol on January 02, 2009, 11:34:35 PM
I am not so sure a 'proof of concept' motor needs to be large or complex. A couple of years ago there was this guy "Mike" that made a self running Bendini type motor that had multiple windings and some odd SCR parts.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1988.0
At first he was giving directions to people on how he did it but no one was unable to duplicate. Of course the 'this can be faked group' took hold and Mike finally gave up trying to help others while never stating he faked it. Looking at his post they were very sincere unlike most of the fakery ones. One of the problems he had was that the circuit diagram he provided was udderly confusing and did not match with the wiring from the pictures and videos. In looking back now I think one of his three windings was more like a "high voltage coil' since it had triple or more turns then the other two windings.
So lets look at a what if...
What if the HV winding  was internally shorted close to the termination point and the rest of the circuit attached to that winding was really useless. Everyone was presuming the circuit actually had to do something and were trying all sorts of variations of the circuit without success. Maybe it was as simple as a shorted winding. The other two lower turned windings (HC ?) might have produced enough power to charge the capacitor and keep the motor running while the shorted "high voltage' winding helped to cancel Lenz. Maybe Mike just had it right by accident. That would explain why when he tried to duplicate the motor it would not work. Just a thought for others to ponder.

WOW - THAT IS A VERY GOOD AND IMPORTANT OBSERVATION!!!

THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES DURING OUR TESTING THAT THE SYSTEM WILL ACCELERATE CLOSE TO 3000 RPM WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THE INPUT TO THE MOTOR IS CONSTANTLY REDUCED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 55 VOLTS WITHOUT THE HV COILS BEING ENGAGED WHEN IN FACT THERE WAS A SHORT IN ONE OF THEM. THESE WERE THE DAYS WHEN I RECYCLED WIRE MORE THAN ONCE.

THEN WHEN I ENGAGED THE HV COILS THE SYSTEM WOULD DECELERATE - CONFUSING THE HECK OUT OF ME.

PROPER PREPARATION OF THE CORE AND CARE IN WINDING SHOULD NOT BE UNDERESTIMATED - EVEN A SMALL NICK IN THE HV WINDING WHICH WILL GIVE VARYING RESISTANCE VALUES FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT - AND MAY CAUSE INTERNAL ARCING (SHORTING) CAUSING THE ENTIRE COIL TO CEASE TO FUNCTION.

CASE IN POINT: THE FIRST "CALIFORNIA CHRISTMAS COIL" PRODUCE OVER 1200 VOLTS AND MASSIVE ACCELERATION (IT WAS MADE WITH RECYCLED WIRE) - IT WORKED VERY WELL ONE MINUTE AND THEN IT QUIT WORKING FOR GOOD WHICH WAS HARD TO ACCEPT.

THANKS FOR THAT HC!   

CHEERS
T

Quote from: CRANKYpants on January 03, 2009, 08:25:56 AM

CASE IN POINT: THE FIRST "CALIFORNIA CHRISTMAS COIL" PRODUCE OVER 1200 VOLTS AND MASSIVE ACCELERATION (IT WAS MADE WITH RECYCLED WIRE) - IT WORKED VERY WELL ONE MINUTE AND THEN IT QUIT WORKING FOR GOOD WHICH WAS HARD TO ACCEPT.

Try either placing the no-longer-working device in a corner by itself or outdoors for several days, or if you are antsy, try some ad-hoc degaussing (HV and magnetic) of the entire device to try to "reinitialize the patterns".

Quote from: CRANKYpants on January 02, 2009, 09:12:05 PM

CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?

BUT, I THINK YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE WE GET BETTER ACCELERATION FROM A LIGHTER PLEXIGLASS ROTOR BUT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT - I DON'T LIKE THE EXPLODING PLEXI ROTOR EFFECTS.
CHEERS
T

Just an observation from my my first rotor which was Delrin with a steel back plate.  It didn't have any
effect yet when I went to the open steel rotor with magnet cups the effect was there... same coil.

We have touched on this before. I was sort of holding off on building a new rotor with 16 magnets
'cause I was unsure of the results. But if your plexi rotor worked I might give it a try.  Lexan is of
course a better choice than plain plexi. Both Lexan and Delrin are around 10,000 PSI tensile.
Reinforced Nylon runs even higher.

Here is a rotor of this construction made with Delrin screwed to a 1/8th steel disc, mounted on a
five horse RV'ed three phase motor... drawing about 60 watts...

Ron

Hello Thane Hello I_ron,

I have done some research in my old german physics-book dated 1940 and found some explanation for
the experience you ( I_ron ) have made with this steel-backplate.

I have put all relevant info in this document with my own words and hope it contributes to our understanding of the process of this Peripiteia-Setup.

The file is placed here in the download-section on page 15.

Name of the File

   E_mag-Fe-Air.doc

Regards

Kator01