Hello, Buzz,

I'm sure you aren't trying to persuade us to continue searching for classical perpetual motion machines--are you?

Nuclear processes (and all of modern physics) obey the laws of thermodynamics.

IF there are undiscovered energy sources in the universe, they are undiscovered. 

We have plenty of other problems to work on, such as how to make a really cost-effective solar panel.  Or, a cheap way to purify water with solar energy.

Anybody want to work on problems like these?

Ernie Rogers

Quote from: TheBuzz on January 06, 2009, 11:45:57 PM
If the textbooks are right, then this is not possible and did not happen:

Russian Tsar Hydrogen Bomb Explosion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ33O0qFeM0

Now maybe you could show me where thermodynamics describes that. Since the universe stored the energy within the mass before you came along and it takes very little energy to convert it into the atomic energy contained within the mass then that is truly OU and your question just got answered.

You owe me $10 dollars or a good karma point (your choice) for the deprogramming they put in you through textbooks and teachers.

...if people would understand how things work (for example like Ed Leedskalnin did - the Coral castle guy and many others), there would not be such problems... and the textbooks - who wrote them anyway and when? Such "textbooks" should be updated at least every year so the info would not be so much missleading... the textbooks still doesn't present a clear answer to the question "what is electricity" ... so we still don't know what really is powering our houses? We don't really know what are we playing with, do we? LOL

Dann

The text books your talking about that are teaching these laws of thermal dynamics are like our laws in society, they are blanket policies to keep it simple for the masses to understand. Like our society laws with in them there are many "exceptions" "isolated incidents" that are exempt from those laws. They aren't the be all and end all. Your text books are there as a guide to give you a broad understanding on a very wide array of information. There is no need to go into minute detail of how everything works. If you need a reason as to why, what need does a civil engineer need for the understanding of quantum mechanics?!? not a lot. So he gets a quick run down on the very basics of the broad spectrum in that area and then left to concentrate on his other studies.

Hello, Dann,

Haven't you wondered why we are still using those old-fashioned generators in the textbooks, and why nobody has yet claimed the over-unity prize?

Ernie Rogers

Quote from: madddann on January 07, 2009, 10:08:06 AM
...if people would understand how things work (for example like Ed Leedskalnin did - the Coral castle guy and many others), there would not be such problems... and the textbooks - who wrote them anyway and when? Such "textbooks" should be updated at least every year so the info would not be so much missleading... the textbooks still doesn't present a clear answer to the question "what is electricity" ... so we still don't know what really is powering our houses? We don't really know what are we playing with, do we? LOL

Dann

This post is simply false.

Sorry /Ernie Rogers

Quote from: CrazyEwok on January 07, 2009, 07:51:40 PM
The text books your talking about that are teaching these laws of thermal dynamics are like our laws in society, they are blanket policies to keep it simple for the masses to understand. Like our society laws with in them there are many "exceptions" "isolated incidents" that are exempt from those laws. They aren't the be all and end all. Your text books are there as a guide to give you a broad understanding on a very wide array of information. There is no need to go into minute detail of how everything works. If you need a reason as to why, what need does a civil engineer need for the understanding of quantum mechanics?!? not a lot. So he gets a quick run down on the very basics of the broad spectrum in that area and then left to concentrate on his other studies.