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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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Koen1

okay no offense IST, but it is not like your posts are extremely clear
so don't blame me for not catching everything you drop a hint to...

And yes I have read the thread but no not every page. This thread
grows exponentially and I don't always have time to read every
additional page.

No I do not have a working "MK2" yet, and in fact it is still not
entirely clear to me what exactly you mean by that.
Do you mean the toroid as posted by MK1, that pic that shows
a toroid with 2 small 4-winding input JT coils and 4 coils placed
oppositely on the ring between the input coils, which are all wound
of 12 winds one way and 10 back?
If that is what you call "the MK2" then no, I have not wound that yet.

I have only built a bunch of classic JTs, a few camera mods, and I have
been doing some experiments with coil variations in the classic JT circuit.
So far I have gotten a few nice results using a secondary around the JTs.

But I cannot say that I have any form of conclusive proof that the output
I'm seeing in the secondary load (the LED series) is not pulled from the
battery entirely.
Can you?
Are you very sure that you can pull as much output from it as you want
with the same input, as you say?
Not that I don't want to believe you, but how sure are you?

Also, I am not the frantic builder that you are. I do not have very much time
to spare and when I do have time to spend on JT experiments I struggle
with the coils. I have not obtained any large ring cores yet, the largest I
have are like 2cm outer diameter, so I need to wind them with really fine
wire, and whith my fingers about as wide as the entire ring core that is a hell
of a job. ;) So it takes a while to wind one and often something goes awry
during winding and the stupid wire gets tangled or whatever and my coil is
messed up so I have to uncoil part of it and re-wind... Really tedious.
What I need is a midget to wind my coils for me, I think. ;D

To answer your question: it is not so much about what voltage output
I'm looking for, it is the wattage that counts. Ultimately it would be great to
have a self-running 230V AC generator. But we're not at selfrunners yet,
so let's look at battery chargers then...
I would like to make a battery charger that can charge 2 batteries from 1.
Soon as we have that, expand it with a 4th battery and an auto switching
circuit that flips the connections, effectively replacing the full batteries
with the empty ones when the first are fully charged. Then we could use
that 4th battery as direct output while the other 2 are being charged from the
one source battery.

I was seriously considering to make a toroid wound like that Tesla toroid,
and try to feed it signals that are 180 and 90 degrees out of phase to see
what comes out. MK1 apparently did so, and he got good results... but I don't
knw what those results were and how they were "good"... could be good because
it behaves like a good JT, or could be good in that it puts out tonnes of excess
energy, who knows...
As long as I don't have a way to produce that 90 degree phase offset I don't
think I will be attempting any winding of that coil contraption. I have enough
trouble as it is trying to get my multiple coils on as it is. ;)
Now I must go, have to finish winding a secondary before wrapping the primaries
around it. Still no MK2 I'm afraid, just a simple double secondary JT.

Kind regards,
Koen

Pirate88179

Al:

Man, I hope you feel better.

Yes, this new project I am attempting will take some time, so far I am up to page 45.....a looong way to go .  I am getting better at it and now adding the page where the diagram or photo was posted.

Thanks everyone,

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Mk1

@koen1

I guess , you will have to try it , the mk series , are design to give a ac out put , by having the 2 coil at 180 from each other and the coil going up and down , Has for getting more , then in that is still not clear , if you would like to clear the confusion , i will help you to make one , if you like that . But traditional theory state that the current is equal in the coil that is with one prim and on secondary , but you can make many secondary they are all the same.

My last mk2 light many neon for a button cell , that is with a regular jt circuit . The secondary are not connected to circuit , So i am real happy with results . My neon are rated at 120 ac.

Now , lets not forget the other ways to get excess energy , like the back emf and tuned tank , to keep the battery going , i don't care much for battery running with gain , because to battery will need to be replaced in the circuit eventually , so not that interesting to me.

Mark

@thaelin

yep , the only thing really needed is the winding direction , you can make the Tesla pat , on one transistor , just by being careful on how its wound , the regular jt is like center tap coil bout coil are going in opposite direction.


@gadget

Dr mk1 is on duty , lol , take care bro!

Mk1

@all

Sorry i have to , every year banks make incredible profit , usually the profit are calculated with the operation fee , now one year it doesn't make profit , it goes bankrupt ? what ? How many company have loses , not less gain and manage to keep in business , what the fuck is so special with bank ? They got your money , the only thing they make is money every year , every atm makes millions for them , how can they
do that , where is the money made last year , and the years before that . Back in last september dow was at 14 000 , now at 6776
every one i know is loosing money every day. I was told about the future last june and i have to say it is all planed , and its going down next month . I smell the amero real good now.

I am so lucky to live at this time in history ! Well nothing has really changed yet.

Mark

xenomorphlabs

Quotewhat the fuck is so special with bank ?

They have the governments by the balls, infiltrated the administration and manipulated it to
inject money into them which has in turn to be taken up as a credit (out of thin air) from the same banking apparatus that receives the so-called "stimulus" in a way that they double profit from this biggest heist in human history by charging interest on this credit to be paid by the tax-payers.
9 trillion USD stolen until now, more to come. While property is consolidated and homes are taken away from home loan debtors.
The ultimate plan is to gain centralized control of world politics by handing over political power to a
"world financial institution" that will supersede all governments. This is done by creating a problem (financial crisis), then waiting for the reaction (people calling for measures against the crisis) and finally offering the solution, a new world bank with a new world currency that will solve the very same crisis that they have created.

These coherences can all be googled, read in mainstream news.