t3t4
Thank you for going to all the trouble to explain yourself.
I think it opens up a big can of sometimes nasty worms to even begin to discuss someone's theory.
I appreciate your efforts and I am sure others do as well.

I am curious about what you have been able to gain in your battery.
Mine stopped well short of 3 volts. I had 1 square foot of Al foil on the outside east facing wall of my house and I added 3 more square feet to that and as of one hour later, there was no increase. This additional acreage of foil brought the top up by one foot as well.
I checked the caps and they were working away but each cap topped at the voltage I was seeing in its respective battery. Then later, because I do it all the time, I added a little water to the ground in and around the zinc coated pail.

My total is about 2.2volts for the day with my set up.

How does that compare with what you get?

You have not yet actually said what you are getting. (unless I missed the post.)

thank you for your work and your sharing it with us,

jeanna

jeanna said:

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Lee,
I am so glad to hear you will be able to join in with the datalogging!!
Please remember to report that part to the datalogging thread. It makes it easier when it is all together.

@jeanna
Okay, here goes:
I went to a small(75 yd X 75 yd) urban park on a hill surrounded by houses in S.F. and then uncoiled 200' of enamel magnet wire onto well-watered, grassy ground that was soaked in spots.  Got nothing on my digital Radio Shack VOM, as I expected(AC, that is).  This was practice to see how much effort would be required to achieve test results.
I didn't stick around long, since people were walking their dogs after I arrived.  What I'll do next is: pick a path in a bigger park and drape the wire over things like bushes and dead weeds so it's not touching the ground.  On a weekend like Sunday, too, when people get ready to turn early for work the next day.
(Bear in mind that Californians are a peculiar bunch and I don't trust their unpredictable reaction to seeing what, potentially, they wouldn't understand.  They might call the cops on me out of fear.  Human nature, I think.
There are other, better places to do this.)

I should post my next definite test result on the datalogging thread when I put my Mandriva disk in the disk drive.  It has no 'Net Nanny' on it to bother me on this computer.  Other computer I use aren't a problem.

--Lee

@jeanna,

QuoteMy total is about 2.2volts for the day with my set up.

How does that compare with what you get?

You have not yet actually said what you are getting. (unless I missed the post.)

thank you for your work and your sharing it with us,

You are quite welcome! All I can say is this: I'd tell you here, but I prefer to let the pic's speak for themselves. If I spit out too many numbers in one shot, most won't believe, let alone listen. But I will show my basic/first completed circuit as well as my location. There will be keynotes and all pertinent information will be included in the description.

I hope you understand, I'm not being cryptic, I'm not hiding anything at all. But I want my first real demonstration of principal to be backed by fact/results. Not by speculation or theory. That may sound lame, but I have years in this project, so I take pride in it!

I will give you all that I know or have learned, but the discovery part will be in my second lecture. To me, when writing something as long as the first explanation, it's a lecture......... but I fealt it was important, so I did only what I thought best to do. So thank you for tolerating it, to whomever reads it in it's entirety.

@Lee

QuoteOkay, here goes:
I went to a small(75 yd X 75 yd) urban park on a hill surrounded by houses in S.F. and then uncoiled 200' of enamel magnet wire onto well-watered, grassy ground that was soaked in spots.  Got nothing on my digital Radio Shack
VOM, as I expected(AC, that is).  This was practice to see how much effort would be required to achieve test results.

This is an aerial, not a ground rod, do not let it touch the grassy knoll but, do try adding water and note the results. The best way to learn is from experience. So my only advice is to try everything at least once!

If you listen to science, it will tell you that 50v are available per every meter or 3' give or take. I have not seen this kind of voltage until I reach altitudes of 100' or more. I don't know how many meters since I'm terrible with math. And I'm not looking it up, I will only tell you the truth! But play around with trees in your experiment, then note the results. But always go higher as long as you can do so safely. And also go deeper into the ground. You need to reach this energy as close to it's source as possible.

t3t4

@jeanna,

If you believe anything from my lecture at all, then, get your foil off the side of the wall since it's conductive, and place it on the peak of the roof. We must reach upwards, not sideways. But you have proven there is potential energy all over the place. So how do we harness it properly?

I'll get into that later along with theory, but until then...... Reach for the sky and drive your ground rods as deep as you can get them. On the peak of your roof you should be getting 7 - 12 Vac with a 12" square sheet of aluminum foil.  At least that's what I receive, and then some depending upon position. But only ever go as high as you feel comfortable. I have a fear of heights, but I'll talk more about that in my next lecture. In the mean time, don't put yourself at risk. It's just a damn experiment, so play at your leisure. The point is to have fun and maybe learn something new. It's all old if you ask me, but always fun to re-discover.....

t3t4

OK later.
The peak of my roof is 3 or 4 feet higher that the side wall of the house. And that makes it 10' off the ground. But, it will be horizontal. The military planes will love this. Ha!

The voltage has not budged, so I will probably get the ladder, which I need to do anyway.

btw 100' is about 35 meters. A meter is a large yard but call it a yard and you will never be too far off.

jeanna