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Overunity Machines Forum



another way to fight lorentz

Started by mr_bojangles, November 07, 2009, 12:59:59 PM

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should i move this into a different section and if so what should it be considered?

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gravityblock

Instead of using alternating poles, what about a circular halbach array.  This would fit nicely with your original design, if the magnetic field would rotate with the array.

Does the magnetic field rotate with a circular halbach array when it's spinning on it's magnetic axis?  If it does, then our counter torque issue is solved and we can have a constant DC output without using a commutator.  I've asked this question before, but received no answer.  Somebody on here must know the answer to this.

I assume the magnetic field does rotate with a circular halbach array, because they use the halbach array to build brush-less motors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-9IAj_YnI

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

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gravityblock

Quote from: mr_bojangles on November 18, 2009, 01:35:07 AM
what if we just use three horse-shoe magnets, arranged pointing outward from the center, alternating in poles

i actually have a couple magnets that are disc shaped with the north and south are on the ends as if you had folded it in half, as opposed to the ones that will not work. i thought it was very peculiar and i actually didn't think about them until now

A simple halbach array would have an effect similar to many horseshoe magnets placed adjacent to each other, with similar poles touching (according to wikipedia).  I think we're on the right track.

Those magnets are radially magnetized magnets.  They are common in speakers I believe.  The magnets where the south pole is on one side, and the north pole is on the opposite side are axial magnetized magnets.   
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mr_bojangles

"The effect of this arrangement is roughly similar to many horseshoe magnets placed adjacent to each other"

wikipedia^

I know they're talking about in a line, but couldn't we loop it?
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gravityblock

Quote from: mr_bojangles on November 18, 2009, 03:21:30 AM
"The effect of this arrangement is roughly similar to many horseshoe magnets placed adjacent to each other"

wikipedia^

I know they're talking about in a line, but couldn't we loop it?

Yes, we can make it circular, just like the circular halbach array in the youtube video. 
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

A relative of mine was once assigned to NATO during his military service, and I asked him about the Halbach Arrays.  He said "UFO", and changed the subject and refused to say anymore about it.

I am about 99% certain that the magnetic field will rotate with a Halbach Array when it's spinning on its magnetic axis.

All we need to do is spin 2 Arrays that are back to back on the same axle with the same magnetic pole facing the stationary discs on each side of the array.  Connect a wire to the axis of each disc and connect the rims of the discs together and extract the current without the counter torque or brushes.  The Halbach Arrays would essentially be rotating inside the stationary discs due to the rims being connected together. 

A wheel inside a wheel, and the wheel didn't turn about.  When the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose.  Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.  This is Ezekiel's wheel, a UFO.  I apologize for throwing this in here, but it is an ancient manuscript that describes the inner workings of a UFO.  How this can be ignored is beyond me.

Spinning the array mass would be much more efficient than trying to create a rotating magnetic field from coils in a TPU.

Here's the mathematics for the HPG.  Doubling the radii of the disc and magnet increases the output power to the 4th power while the input power requirements only increases to the square thereof.  The catch is the counter torque also increases to the 4th power and then there are huge losses associated with brushes, thus the reason for not achieving OU in the conventional setups.  Without the counter torque or brushes, we should have OU.


GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.