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Ultracaps tested for excess energy

Started by PaulLowrance, November 30, 2009, 12:47:01 PM

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broli

Quote from: MileHigh on December 02, 2009, 08:33:57 PM
Do you have something to contribute to Paul's thread or are you here just to make trouble?

MileHigh

Wait what? What did you contribute? It seems like you feel bad about someone putting a halt on your streak of ignorance and negative behavior. In nature there's no - without a +. Sadly for you I'm here to balance you out. I agree that my posts are trash but they are the counter trash of yours, so both deserve to be deleted. This thread should be about helping paul out in any way getting the needed data out of the bcap. If you step out of that border I'll be there to bite.

electricme

@ Paul,

Well done Paul, you should be commended for your effort over the last days, it's no small feat to put a software package together in the middle of a flame war.
This is one of the best software research tools I have heard about, and we need them to keep our real time data records.

BTW people, there are more big surprises coming up regarding Paul's mighty effort here. That's all I'm saying.

I am looking forward to being a BETA tester if that's OK by you Paul.

@IST,
Hello old friend, nice to see you here, I been irradiating me self wif Ultra Violet radiation by a MOT and the Bedini, wow groovy greens and light blue stuff, ha ha.
I betta get out the lead shields

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

Pirate88179

broli:

I admire your tenacity in your posts.  Do not get upset here.  As I have tried to explain to Milehigh for a while now, Paul's test will prove something one way or the other.  I commend him for doing this for all of us.

As I have tried to get across to Milehigh many times, either Paul does the tests correctly, or he doesn't.  The opportunity for others to do their tests is wide open.  IF those tests differ from Paul's then we can discuss it.  I, personally, have faith in Paul's testing ability but, no one here has to take my word for that.  Milehigh can perform his own tests and then we can compare.  This is how we can learn what is real.

So, I would not bother to try to get Milehigh to see this.  He won't.  I have tried.  He is locked onto some things he thinks he has learned and there the learning has stopped for him, which is sad really.  He does sound like an educated guy with a lot of knowledge but, sad to say, a closed mind can not do science.  This is unfortunate but, I don't see a way to change that.

So, broli, we will let Paul continue along the path that he thinks is correct.  And, if anyone differs, they are MORE than welcome to perform the same tests THEIR way.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

MileHigh

Bill:

The "testing" argument is nothing more than an attempt by the "believers" to put up a protective shield and pretend that they should not listen to someone else's input because they are going to hear things that they don't want to hear.  Hearing other viewpoints "breaks" their fantasy, they only want to read postings that are in line with their own train of thought.

For example, I stated in one of the JT threads that there is nothing special about supercapacitors and you deleted the posts.  You were so sure of the "research" done in the JT threads that you had to hit the delete buttton because what I stated was "upsetting."  Meanwhile in reading some of your posts I can see that you are a beginner in electronics.  Another example:  I looked at Paul's data and speculated that the capacitance of a supercap increases as the voltage across the cap is increased.  Then the next day I found an IEEE paper that confirmed my speculation.  Broli calls that "utter and complete trash."  Go figure.

I am not stopping Paul from doing his testing and I tried making some suggestions to him for doing his tests.

With respect to supercapacitors, I can think of a crazy but applicable story for you.  You have a high-end Intel i7 gaming machine.  The Intel i8 chip comes out and you say to your friends, "The first thing I am going to do is see if I can get free energy out of the i8 chip.  After all, it's a new Intel chip so you never know it might be a free energy device."  It is as crazy as that with respect to looking for a source of free energy with a supercapacitor.

MileHigh

PaulLowrance

MileHigh,

You seem to ignore the obvious. I keep telling you that measured ultracap capacitance changes far more with respect to temperature than voltage. In fact I gave you measurements of where the capacitance was far higher at a lower voltage, and I gave you measurements where the capacitance was far higher at a higher voltage-- both ways.

Personally I don't think it's very big of you saying these utracaps do not exhibit excess energy. Especially when your theory absolutely fails to explain the *main* effect. I'm not saying it's excess energy. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not. Anyhow, sure enough if you think as you've demonstrated, then 99.99...% of the time you'll be correct? Big deal. It takes nothing to say it's impossible. It takes a lot more to explore the unknown. The problem is that such a closed minded mentality prevents you from discovering something that conventional science does not understand, ... unless you just happen to be extremely lucky.

Paul