At 150 minutes total energy is 37.450 joules and UC voltage is 365.0mV.

Paul

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 06, 2009, 04:57:15 PM
Broli,

If this method of slow charge & fast discharge is COP>1, then it might be difficult to get these UC's at a good price. Stefan started a cool thread on how to makes UC's. There's a guy at another forum that's been making DIY UC's comparable to the maxwell boostcaps.

BTW, I'm more interested in obvious COP>1. If by chance I post that it's COP>1, then please trust me it is obviously COP>1.

If it's COP>1, then I hope people spread the news by Internet & email & even live chat sites, but probably more importantly by phone. So if it's COP>1, then please call all of your OU friends. Web pages can be taken down at the drop of a hat. Doesn't hurt to be prepared. 

If COP>1 then of course this would not be the smoking gun since it's not a self-runner, but it wouldn't take much to make it a self-runner circuit.

Paul

Paul we are already on it ! . Our little group has the circuit layout and getting factory boards made . Please visit second stage joule thief for our progress . We are ready to put it together . I already know it self runs with a simple jump thru a 1.2 volt flashlight bulb with a tiny drop in the milivolts off the bcap  and keep the aa battery charging while keeping the bcap above unity . The circuit will use micro Ics and a pic to do the deed way better / Its a go ! All the circuitry is ther except for the pic code which Alex is writing to adjust the bcap discharge parameters . . It's as real as it gets !self runner for sure ,but is it enough to snag a prize ? Stephan and other will be intrigued none the less . !!! I acan't wait to see that sparkle in his eye! A video will be sent to him so he can post it on youtube of a bcap charging a bcap . and the unit protype itself before i send him his unit .

We are spreading the work and word and after the units are made i will contact the local Tv and news papers with the news and a video/interview . As others will be reproducing the units i suggest you all  hurry up and get some bcaps from maxwell or anywhere you can ASAP before the news hits !! they will be non existent or extremely unfeasible not far from now .
Gadget

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 06, 2009, 05:41:50 PM
At 150 minutes total energy is 37.450 joules and UC voltage is 365.0mV.

Paul

I admit My Brain is not capable at this moment to know what the numbers are representing to you and other number crunchers ,except Mh who find fault in everything ! . What is this telling you so far Paul ?

Albert

Hi,

Here's the results. This method of slow charge, fast discharge did not show COP>1. The final voltage after charging the UC was 374.1mV, took 40.383 joules, and the charging current was a bit over 22mA. After discharging the UC at a max current well over 400mA, the final result is that 3.265 joules was lost in the entire charge/discharge process, thus making this UC 91.9% efficient, which IMO makes it one amazing capacitor.

The data log file is over 200MB. If anyone absolutely must have this, then let me know. My brother is flying out from out of state, and his plane will land in about 5 minutes. Hopefully tomorrow I can post the circuits & software for anyone who wants to replicate this or build a very simple data logger.

Gadget, keep up the work, and hope you get a self-runner. Like you said, it might be a different way. The secret might be in the pulses. Or it might not be the UC at all, as it might be in the JT, or perhaps a combination of both.

BTW, after watching this experiment all day, the amazing main effect I've observed over the past week appears to be dielectric absorption. There might be other main effects. Who knows until one investigates. As is seen in the charging data, the UC change in capacitance was a minor effect, as expected and as seen in last weeks measurements, but we've gone over this before.

Anyhow, I have to go to the airport a.s.a.p.

Cheers,
Paul

Good job Paul this experiment and logger is much needed. Would you like to add some requests to the software logger, for instance being able to change the rate at which the data is dumped ie sampling rate.