Quote from: Azorus on January 20, 2010, 08:27:43 AM
...the governers grand plan to save the states budget for 2011 was to cut half the state jobs, ie schools, traffic repair/control.  in order to cut the States defacet in half.

I think the State of Maine may not be able to function adequately if they did that.
But, I'm surprised Gov. Swartznegger in California hasn't done that yet.  It might be coming, though. 

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And no things are not as bad in europe.

Well, fortunately, America is bordered by two oceans and the Gulf of Mexico.  Muslims can't sneak up on us that way.  Mexico and Canada are another problem.

If the War on Terror goes badly (likely, in the long term), there's nothing to stop the Muslims from imitating Genghis Khan and approaching Eastern Europe like Genghis did, but with a more modern, larger army this time.

The Americans and NATO can't win militarily.

--Lee

Muslim's are not the problem.  Not sure who refered to it but we are seeing the similarity here as in the Roman empire.  People have forgotten the value of real things, like real food, not processed crap that kills you.  While I agree that science is great some of it is bad too.  What happened to the idea of getting the freshist vegetables to the table?  Instead it has turned to getting the chemically indueced fresh vegetables to the table.  There is a real problem here.  It falls way back to values.  If you don't value what you eat, breath, or do for work you will become a lacky that can be written off, which is what has happened because corporations see that most people are stupid brainless morons that will do what they are told to by the idiot box.

Quote from: Azorus on January 20, 2010, 02:39:59 PM
Muslim's are not the problem.

You're right.  Moderate Muslims aren't a problem.  Some of their leaders are radical, Fascist/Rightist agitators, who whose founding leaders were originally recruited by Hitler to destabilize SW Asia in WWII.  Some of them are/were sociopaths, then and now.

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  Not sure who refered to it but we are seeing the similarity here as in the Roman empire.  People have forgotten the value of real things, like real food, not processed crap that kills you.

Exactly. I agree.

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While I agree that science is great some of it is bad too. 

Building deadly weapons is bad, I agree, if that's part of your point.

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What happened to the idea of getting the freshist vegetables to the table?  Instead it has turned to getting the chemically indueced fresh vegetables to the table.  There is a real problem here.

Yeah, greed and the money people desire are the reason.  More profits are the source of poor food we eat.

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It falls way back to values.  If you don't value what you eat, breath, or do for work you will become a lacky that can be written off, which is what has happened because corporations see that most people are stupid brainless morons that will do what they are told to by the idiot box.

I regret to say it, but too many people were made that way by an American education system that the politicians wanted, and the people put up with.

--Lee

I am not saying by any means that the education system has failed in the US. but lets face it, we are losing the battle.  The war is not over until all signs of intelegence are wiped out of the US and that is not gonna happen in my lifetime.  Parents need to stand up and being one, need to get there kids into learning, anything!  What kind of country have we come to when the majority of our nations education level is that of a 10th grader.  for god sakes people educate yourselves, the internet is there for that.  If you don't take advantage of it now it will go away, just look at public libraries.

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