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Overunity Machines Forum



Daniel Pomerlou demonstrates free-energy

Started by Bruce A. Perreault, July 21, 2005, 02:42:28 PM

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EMdevices

@Nicholas

I hope you read this in time.....

You don't really need a Faraday cage, they might not even let you bring it in,  you just need a large enough solid plate of aluminum or other metal.(make it about 2 two 3 times the size of his circuit board to be sure)  Aluminum foil should work fine for the upper frequencies.  Sneak it in, and then put them on the spot by demanding to test for RF transmission, see how they react.

Take the plate and try to block any energy that might be radiated towards the circuit.  Move it around, to the sides, top and botom, etc... to make sure you have covered all directions.

The reason this works is because judging from the size of the circuit they are using high frequency in the upper MHz or even GHz range, and any diffraction from the edges of the plate should be insignificant I hope.  Also see DR. Stifflers accomplishments with those tiny coils picking up energy, he's operating in the MHz range I believe.


Good luck and try not to break out into singing...   lol

EM

neptune

@Emdevices . On the whole I find your theories fascinating . However those coils that he uses , look more suitable for tuned circuits at no higher than 30 MHz , rather than VHF or UHF circuits . This probably makes your theory less tenable . I thought the camera might provide a video link to another room , for the guy who "pulls the strings " so to speak. Let me repeat that if this is real , it is the only recorded  instance of this phenomenon in recorded history . doesn't that strike you as odd ? Other cases of idiot savants are also rare , but you could probably find 100 or more . The use of the word idiot in this context is definitely not intended as an insult , but is a recognised expression .

scotty1


Pirate88179

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Nicolas Roger

some things I noticed (I'm writing them as they come to my head, that doesn't mean they are all relevant)


I have mixed feelings about what I saw. I really went there with an open mind but some things stroke me as really odd. The ambiance surrounding the demo clearly screams fake.  There was a lot of talking about god and the willing of the people and blablabla (new age stuff) that was totaly irrevelent with the demo.  At least Half of the crowd was people who clearly don't know anything about electricity.  There was mabye 50 people at the demo.

there was some tech guy in front (2 guy) who could take measurements on the modules, but the guy would never let them play too long with the module.  They were always saying we would lack time to show all the modules if we spend too much time verifying them.  The problem I see with that is that there was about 20 modules (totally unnecessary to have that much) and the guy even answered a question about an other conference not connected to this one for at least 15-20 min.  The show lasted about 5 hours. After mabye the second or third module, Mario (the guy talking in front with Daniel) yelled at one of the tech and was really mad at him seemigly because he was taking too long to take measurements on the module.  The tech guy had to go back in the crowd with us after Mario asked him to leave the stage.

Mario is not constant when describing the life of Daniel. (once he says Daniel never went to school but an hour later there is a story about when Daniel was at school, etc, etc,)

They did let us have the modules in our hands and take some measurements (I myself could test some of them with my own little motor and with my own big electric appliance (I don't know the name of it in English, in French it's called a "sableuse")  They could run out of the power given by his module.  What is sad is that they never let us play with them long enough.  We wanted them to continue the demo with a new module while we try the one already in the crowd so we don't waste any time.  But they refused, arguing that in the past people stole modules so they wanted to always keep an eye on them (so again that make us lose a lot of time).

They was still a camera filming the whole event.  The camera was really working (we could see was she was filming in a small tv on a table) The lady still said they were filing the event because Daniel enjoy watching peoples reaction.

All the modules who dont have battery have a lot of coils.  The modules who has battery are seemingly impossible (seemingly one wiring attached to a motor and it runs or seemingly no wire connection between the battery and the motor).  The modules with battery in it are the most "easily" faked.  Here is why:  Mario told us that they went to our national electric distributor company (hydro-québec) in the 80's to show them their module and blablabla.  But!, they really did go there and the compagny produced a document (in french) attesting that the 2 modules they testes are fake (single wires connection were actualy multi fibred wires they say). You can find the document here: http://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/forum/ressources/rapport-de-l-ireq-ireq4rt3265-g/608

The module without any visible battery are more interesting.  Some of them could ouput at least 166V. can't remember the amps, I will need to check that in my notes (I took nearly 20 pages of notes I think). They could run a lot of different electric appliance on them.  The electric appliance are clearly NOT fake.  Again, I tested it with my own appliance and someone even brought a bring new drill still packed.  One thing I noticed,  they never let run the stuff for too long (not even 20 sec in most cases).  Daniel usually pressed the switch of the appliance maybe 5 seconds, then let go, then 5 seconds again. Then switch appliance and redo this with the same module.
The modules were still working when they were among the crowd.  The camera seemed to follow it when it was moving around the people but not always.  I suspect that when she was not filming us directly then the modules had battery in it but im not sure on that, i will have to check my notes (and my friends note too)

I did bring a metal box but the modules were too big to fit in my box.  But, I used the lid of my box to try to shield an unknown beam on the module that was giving 166V.  I placed the lid over the module, under it, left right front, between 2 coils, but nothing! our multimeter constantly showed 166V.  That's really puzzling.
Also a guy I know by sight wrapped one of the module with aluminum paper and we could still see some lights still bright by a small opening.  A module (I think it's the same one but i'm not sure, will have to check my notes and my friends notes again) was also put into a microwave oven, door shut, and we could still see 2 lights trough the door.  I will have to check my friends notes again to know if those 2 modules (wich are mabye the same) were the one who contained battery in a seemingly impossible circuit (wich I suspect but I'm not sure yet)

They also showed a module which looked like a car which they let the wheels turn for the entire demo.  We saw that the volts in the circuit actually climbed at the end of the demo.  I'm not puzzled about this one because there was enough place in the module to hide small battery (and the wheels were turning really slowly) and there was also a lot of coils in the module, so it seems to me it was easy to simply recharge the battery during a 5h show. The volts at the beginning was 2.4V and at the and was about 2.6 V, nothing impressing.

To whoever asked for it: yes they were children in the room and they could seemingly remotely operate the modules but only when Daniel would touch their head (like pressing on a button of their head lets say).  The older people couldn't operate the modules.  4 kids were also on stage once for a demo, they actually did nothing at all but sit a on chair. Except one of them who had the module in his hands.  That was for a demo with lights bulbs.  I bring a diffraction grating to the demo to watch those light (because I read somewhere that the light is different in the outlet than with the module).  I couldn't take pictures but I watched the spectra of the light bulbs directly with my eyes and found nothing unusual compared to when they were plugged in the outlet.


To whoever asked for it: there was not a lot of cables running around everywhere in the room.

One of the tech guy in front had a RF wave meter sensible to an array of wavelength including FM radio (i have the exact frequency range in my notes somewhere).  He said he couldn't pick anything unusual during the whole demo.  I asked him to put the detector in my metal box and the radio frequencies appeared shielded on his screen (whatever it worths...).  He detected something unusual when they did the demo about Daniel transmitting his voice on paper and then trough the radio.  Yea about that demo: Daniel wrote a circuit on a paper with a pencil, and part of the drawing looked like a speaker, He said ALLO! in the speaker several time and someone who was really close to the radio said he was hearing his voice through the radio speaker (really close has: having his ears at 10cm of the speaker).  Also we could hear a king of HUMMMMM noise.  When Daniel teared appart a wired drawn on the paper, the humming would stop.  When he connected those drawn wires with a real wire, the humming would resume.  The hummmm sound would change if Daniel would bring the paper closer or farther from him.
notes: the guy near the radio actualy played with the tuning button (trying to pickup a better signal or something) but Daniel said he shouldnt have done that and he went to find the right frequency again for his demo to work. 
I talked to the guy after the demo, he seemed legit to me.

last demo what a small electric motor with 2 wires connected to it.  One of the wire was going nowhere (about 6 cm long) the other was also going nowhere but there was a switch at the end of it.  Opening the switch would start the motor, cosing it would stop it.  I connected my own small motor to it while it was running and my motor also started running.  That's a weird one.  The only way I could explain this one is that there is an hidden battery in his small motor and that the wire with the switch is actualy a double wire like I said earlier.  But his electric motor was so small, I don't see how he could have hidden anything in it.

So if all of this is a fraud, there will have to be many different way by which they are doing it.  There is no single trick that could explain them all.  This required at least 3 differents trick in my opinion and only one seems to have been discovered (the Hydro-québec documents)

that's it,  there are proably other things to say but I don't know what to write at this point.  Hope this help.

I will try to answer any question to the best of my knowledge.

Nicolas