I just have a question:

Is it a must to use a high frequency if the voltage is the essence?

I think of a simple transformer that is stepping up the voltage. Put that transformer into the power outlet, or using a SMPS powersupply for car audio amplifiers. Place a rectifier at the secondary winding and plug it into the steel plates in the water. 200 times more windings on the secondary winding will produce at least 2400V with a 12V input...

It should be possible to make as much kV as we want actually, and we do not need the baking soda or salt in the water.

Vidar

Quote from: Low-Q on March 14, 2010, 06:27:36 AM
I just have a question:

Is it a must to use a high frequency if the voltage is the essence?

Yes.

There are two issues:
1. The effect of 42.8Khz
2. The effect of the static voltage across plates (tubes) which
are separated by a crucial proportion of the wavelength.

If you look at the Boyce 101 plate set-up, the "wave" goes
across the plates such that the nulls occur at the plates,
and the sine wave + and - portions lie between the plates.

For this reason, the manufacturing problems (challenges)
are not trivial. You can get the box built for you by a
chap called Ed Holdgate. (Don't bet your kidneys on a box
built by anyone else actually working).

Quote from: Paul-R on March 14, 2010, 09:28:34 AM
Yes.

There are two issues:
1. The effect of 42.8Khz
2. The effect of the static voltage across plates (tubes) which
are separated by a crucial proportion of the wavelength.

If you look at the Boyce 101 plate set-up, the "wave" goes
across the plates such that the nulls occur at the plates,
and the sine wave + and - portions lie between the plates.

For this reason, the manufacturing problems (challenges)
are not trivial. You can get the box built for you by a
chap called Ed Holdgate. (Don't bet your kidneys on a box
built by anyone else actually working).

Great, thanks! I will now start my replication of Mayers generator. I have just one consern regarding the resonance system: The capacity (Farads) of the plates in water will change as soon as it is starting to produce gasses. Pure water will make another capacity than when there is gas bubbles between the plates. So it will probably be hard to find the right capacity, or right coil in the circuit to make it resonance at 42.8kHz. Maybe it is better to have a fixed frequency generator that is amplified with a few watts so no resonance circuits are required?

Attached there is a picture of a waveform that has its base tone at 21.4kHz but contains equal amplitude of 1.5., 2., 2.5., and 3. harmonic. The frequensies are therefor: 21.4kHz, 32.1kHz, 42.8kHz, 53.5kHz, and 64.2kHz.

So with this generator there will be no drift in the resonant frequencies due to bubbles, temperature and other factors.

See also attached waveshape and spectrum.

Here is a link to a .WAV file I made just now with 5 seconds of this "sound" - if someone want to try this with your amplifier
http://www.lyd-interior.no/lydfiler/21400hz-plus-1.5-2-2.5-3harmonic-192kHz-sampling.wav

Vidar

This is a short clip showing the "milky white" phenomenon. Not overwhelmingly
instructive, but nonetheless, very inspirational:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/WFCrep.wmv

Also, don't forget to review Page 20 of 78 (onwards).
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf

you know, i thought of something similar to this before, but i didn't have anything to experiment with and i couldn't find the specific answers i needed


i think a main problem is the purity of water, as well as the separation of the oxygen from the hydrogen

distilled water would work the best, i believe, because all impurities have been removed and i think it takes less energy for the separation process

while the electricity added does separate the oxygen and hydrogen, you need a method of actually separating them from each other


im not sure why hydrogen cars don't just feed the water back to the source, but my guess would be that the water might be "pure" in a chemical sense, but "dirty" when compared to the original source

other than that, the idea is so logical i don't know why it hasn't been done before, looking forward to hearing your results, il be following, sorry to say however i have no personal experience in these so i cant add a whole lot