Just when you thought we weren't going to talk about the chinese anymore I found this on www.earthfiles.com.
The fact that NASA computers can be accessed and downloaded by nations such as China, does that imply perhaps one of our blind sides in the past was that companies that make computers had the computers constructed by Chinese labor and perhaps backdoors and accesses to all computers going to the United States and other countries were engineered during the Chinese assembly of computers so Chinese intelligence would have easy access, even to computers that you would think would have serious firewalls.
triffid

Another detail I found on www.earthfiles.com talk about increasing seed costs for farmers since 1996.We have to step back and ask ourselves, ‘Why have we had to step up this chemical warfare on soybean, cotton and corn farms so dramatically since 1996? I think fundamentally the answer is: a technology came along â€" genetic engineering â€" where the private sector realized there were some ways to create patent-protected profits in major crops that were associated with these pesticide management kind of traits turning the crops into little mini-insecticide factories creating herbicide-tolerant crops. Right now the honeybees and bats are dying(honeybees again) possibly due to genetically engineered crops.So we create plants that make their own insecticides.The bugs eat the plants the bats eat the bugs and die.triffid

Just as I thought J.P. Morgan wins again over weak government.http://www.zerohedge.com/article/whistleblower-exposes-jp-morgans-silver-manipulation-scheme    triffid

@triffid
With respect to your Reply #421,

I hadn't thought of genetically engineered crops being their own self-generating insecticide factories.  No wonder, then, that other bees won't eat remaining honey in bee colonies that collapse.  It's poisoned.

And, one third of commercial crops are pollinated by bees.  This is a worsening problem, if that's the certain, proveable cause.  Food shortages!!
The question is, do bees simply fly away and die, or do they die in the hive and therefore demonstrate the cause of their demise by chemical analysis?

--Lee

Short answer is bees die because there basic diet has been replaced with crop fields. Long answer is wild bees feed on wild flowers which you cant find so much anymore. Plant one acre or more of unmolested wild flowers next to your wanted yield of man made fruit/vegies,  and your hive will be somthing to be scared of. And if you are a good observer, you will observe the colony prefers the wild stuff. Find me a bee guy with over an acre of wild flowers that bitchn about bee disorder death and i will... lost connection