Quote from: Cloxxki on April 22, 2010, 03:53:21 PM
So, you need to put the energy in to get the oscillation. But when you stop the oscillation, the energy doesn't come out?
I believe the jury is still out on whether energy is really stored in 2nd stage oscillator, when it's impossible to retrieve it, and constant input on the 1st stage is required to keep it going.

Anything that changes direction of travel requires energy to change it's direction. An oscillation IS just that!...  Wind pushes on the water and a wave (oscillation) is created. It has an amplitude and a frequency... That's energy in motion... Work. If the wave comes ashore, it moves some sand or something and that's it! The wave is gone. It won't keep going.

With the 2 stage device your push on stage 1 is a light push because you have gravity assist. The pendulum accelerates due to gravity. The speed of curviture at the bottom of the swing translates into centrifugal force. Then, the equivelent centripetal force acts on the input side of stage 2 for an even greater push. The result is that a mass on the output side is set into oscillation. Every single time the output mass is lifted against gravity in it's oscillation amplitude, that is an expression of work.

Here are some updates from YouTube:

Milkovic's Pendulum Replica videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSokCcsu7s                     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiLLlFYOv18                           

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTue9xzH8sU                   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6u8dSfbMH8                 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxF-egvVSZM                     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHQn3kuG5c0               

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D73mcdvhyZA                   

Quote from: MoRo on April 22, 2010, 04:56:40 PM
Anything that changes direction of travel requires energy to change it's direction. An oscillation IS just that!...  Wind pushes on the water and a wave (oscillation) is created. It has an amplitude and a frequency... That's energy in motion... Work. If the wave comes ashore, it moves some sand or something and that's it! The wave is gone. It won't keep going.

With the 2 stage device your push on stage 1 is a light push because you have gravity assist. The pendulum accelerates due to gravity. The speed of curviture at the bottom of the swing translates into centrifugal force. Then, the equivelent centripetal force acts on the input side of stage 2 for an even greater push. The result is that a mass on the output side is set into oscillation. Every single time the output mass is lifted against gravity in it's oscillation amplitude, that is an expression of work.

Are you stating the 2nd stage as output mass? If the 2nd stage is prevented to come back down, a second weight can be substituted half a cycle later to be lifted in its turn, the oscillation is gone.
Even though the second stage seems to represent great work done for little input, the fact that it moves against gravity doesn't mean the device is overcoming all the 2nd stage weight each time. The unhindered downward motion of the 2nd stage is essential, making the 2nd stage just a big dangling mass that can't be used for anything but crushing a few raw eggs, and even then at a loss of energy.
I used to believe, but see it only as a complicated brainteaser.

Quote from: Cloxxki on April 29, 2010, 08:20:41 PM
Are you stating the 2nd stage as output mass? If the 2nd stage is prevented to come back down, a second weight can be substituted half a cycle later to be lifted in its turn, the oscillation is gone.
Even though the second stage seems to represent great work done for little input, the fact that it moves against gravity doesn't mean the device is overcoming all the 2nd stage weight each time. The unhindered downward motion of the 2nd stage is essential, making the 2nd stage just a big dangling mass that can't be used for anything but crushing a few raw eggs, and even then at a loss of energy.
I used to believe, but see it only as a complicated brainteaser.

I neither argue for nor against Milkovic's device, as I have my own proposed device that I believe would be superior to the pendulum device for energy production. My device would work even in a gravityless environment by utilising centrifugal forces from a full rotational input mass, for both positive and negative amplitudal energy on stage 2. See my videos on youtube channel: MagnaMoRo.

Here are the updates from RHEAD100:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8LLaN_9TQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOSkVFmK8rk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRxbi7rXElM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySWMDGLiqo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yujjo94CL5Y

Hoping he'll give some details here.