Wow .. u guys rule.. espically lasersaber .. he understands!!! its like a freaking light shinning down  ..magnetic driven spark gap that increases in speed ... sounds like a telluric battery being primed .. aright im actually back this time life is going a lot better my girl is back to finishing her masters and ive got some money and free time..


Shout out to Bill, Jeanna ,electricme and Hans  you folks dealt with me during a real hard time in life thanks for still posting and keeping the thoughts flowing

New email folks localjoe@me.com direct all questions to that if ya can i will try to be on the forums more and start posting but i would love a quick rundown of recent developments if anyone is game
                                                                     

after reading a bit i came up with a list of ideas to be tossed around.  these could have already been answered there just thoughts stuck in my mind about the overall scope of this thing. I think once the following is ironed out using common test bed between us all we will have someting pretty interesting not that its not now but here ya go.

topics
   
   
   resonance in  primary to secondary and possible coorliation with multiple of shuman resonanse
   primary to secondary ratio - physical mass and layers of winding and dimensions
   alum vs iron wire in primary
   reducing friction in reed switch setup with magnet motor... possible levitation in confied plastic case with repulsion

   identifying a ramping up effect or priming effect when the coil is initilazied withen the soil.
   creating a hv stepdown transformer to make some usable power from this thing

   in the end we should be able to produce high frequency high voltage energy from this setups secondary coil. lets make it happen people
   

Joe:

Good to see you again man!  Yes, there have been many folks working away over here and getting some very interesting results.  It appears that the work on the coil is getting a lot closer to what NS had than ever before.

Glad to hear things are going better for you.  I look forward to hearing about your experiments once again.  I have been pretty busy lately and can only pop in here now and then to try to keep up.  Soon, hopefully, I will be back to experimentation myself.

Bill

Quote from: IotaYodi on May 08, 2010, 11:44:55 AM
http://www.coilws.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=104
"As the magnetization force increases ( or the current over the conductor is increased), a point is reached where the magnetic material or core will saturate. See point "S" above on the curves. When that happens, any further increase in H, will not increase the flux. More importantly, the permeability goes to zero as the slope now is flat. In this situation the magnetic material or core will fail to work as a transformer, chokes, or inductors.

So, it is very important in a choke or inductor design, not to drive the core into saturation by increasing the current (AC or DC). Usually it is the DC current that saturate the cores since it is a constant current, and puts the cores to a certain flux level."

So Im thinking the switch may need to open/shut before the saturation point. Number of turns,core materiel,voltage etc will determine the switching rate. Most think this is a radiant energy or cold electricity device. The voltage and current relationships as far as ohms law goes with radiant energy doesnt seem to be known. The more current though the more radiant energy.

My wife broke a food chopper. I took the laminated core out and tested it. Absolutely no remanence. Plus it magnified the field intensity of my toroid magnets substantially.  I wonder if they make them in round or rectangular rod configurations.

Key  point here folks-

1) The switch needs to throw before the core reaches saturation,  this will take some more test builds to and some way to measure saturation .. maybe magnetic film to hold up behind it sold at the kid science stores.
     
            a) Is there a way to modify the speed at which the reed switch throws in order to dump the flux before the core reaches saturation     other than winding a different sized primary bifilar coil?

2) After the stuff in 1. is ironed out the primary coil should be constructed in a fashion to bring the secondary to resonance. i know this has to do with wire length, mass and a few sets of calculations between the L1 and L2 in the circuit. we want this thing to ring.. 
 

I have said this before but why not just use a transistor?  We know from our work in the JT topic that we can operate some of them on .3 volts and we also know how to achieve resonance by using a VR to find the correct value of the total coil system.  This to me is a very simple solution that NS probably would have used if they were around back then.

My next attempt will have a ferrite core and I will try a small, maybe 2N3904 just to see what happens.  This should allow for some pretty high freqs. as we have seen in our Joule Thief builds.

Bill

@Bill
That is a good idea.
You might recall that when I used a non-galvanic stubblefield battery in place of the toroid of a joule thief, the results were excellent.
I am sure you are right about making the transistor an integral part of the generator.

@localjoe
Welcome back Joe!
I wish you well.


There are a couple of references that might speed up your reading.
The first main one is the set of 4 of lasersaber's videos.
He showed that (like john bedini's coil) the stubblefield gen will self regulate its speed of pulse.
He used a lightweight rotor on a plastic jar lid loaded with 4 magnets all facing out and a reed switch connected across some various wires.
On his first example he said the rotor picked up speed for many hours (I think he said all day) So, it was gaining as it was in use.
The timing was not an issue and it was automatic.
In the last video he showed a big coil with "hundreds and hundreds of turns" made and connected just as stubblefield did and said it worked as NS had said it would.
He was NOT expecting that to work so it is all the more interesting.
Here is Laser's youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/lasersaber#g/u
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The other reference I have for you harkens back to your first post with the basil plant.
I have posted the info on a thread about using an earth battery to start a joule thief.
this is the beginning of that thread.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8540.0
So, thanks for the inspiration with the plant! 

Here is the first video of the Plant Battery #1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BER7FTW1FfA

thank you,

jeanna