Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 30, 2010, 02:50:53 PM
Only if people get back to figuring out what Kapanadze really did.
His coil(s) looked different, his paths are different, his output frequency is 50 Hz.
Yet does he have 20 amps in the ground cable, which are either generated in the coil somehow or being pulled out of the ground. And that with a closed loop system with no wall or battery input.

NOT possible for mass replication.  Kapanadze far exceeds the maximum  9 component count that enables replication. Kapagen only has 5 items.  MOT, diode, cap, bulbs, coil of wire.

Other low count devices include imoteep relay charger and maybe joel thief but thats pushing it:)

Over 9 parts means only hardcore builders will even try and may be just one in a billion will do manage it....then keep it secret.

Whats needed now it someone that has a GOOD OU looking kapagen to run it on 500-1000 watt inverter and measure the DC battery volts and amp to get true power readings.

I am impressed by Naudin's measurement technique.
Excellent done. I guess we have solid evidence (if the whole thing is as illustrated) that the bulbs are brighter for much less input power.

it could be a real sign of definite OU or as Xeno said it could be a real sign of increased lumens/watt efficiency than convetional means. (devil's advocate)

Good in any respect IMO.

Next thing and less elaborate i guess is to chase after electrical measurment of power via standard methods as rectification, smoothing, and known load operated at more or less DC resistance.
Or in case it is believed the magic lies in the High Frequency state of the electricity, calometric measurmement is a must.
e.g. 5-10 x 300 watt heating elements in series, all inside a known volume bucket of water from cool-to-boiling temp and watching times.

Bottom line,
Keep up the good work Naudin!

@Dragon,

Regarding the more voltage less amperage = same result i think this contradicts the law P=I2R
By the way, i have read and i think its very reasonable, that amperage may not be a standard quantity of electrons rather the effect they perform. For example heat, it is known that results from electron collisions with molecules during their motion.
Same energy (heat) could be liberated by having a large quantity of electrons colliding with molecules moving slowly or just a few colliding with molecules at higher speeds. (Voltage is the motive source here)

The same (reasonably) maybe true for magnetism.

Quote from: JuJu on June 30, 2010, 07:15:43 PM

@xeno, before he loops the system he must know what values of output are involded here, and the frequency also, so he can correct the frequency to 50Hz and then divide the energy needed to sustain the device from the energy in exess and send only that amount to the load!

He does not even need to know the frequency.
"Direct Frequency correction" is a Don Smith-Lie, i have pointed that out before.
The indirect method is to rectify and dump the output into a cap bank then run an inverter designed to run at 50 Hz that is taking the charge off the cap bank and convert it to 50Hz AC 220 Volt through a suitable step-down transformer to be dumped back to the input via a cap.
This sounds of course easier than it is and could take months to locate the transformer and to be properly
built and refined.

@Bolt: Kapagen IS already a replication attempt of a Kapanadze device and is certainly missing 4 out of the 9 components you mention. Those missing 4 components are responsible for the "big extra chunk".

I agree with the recent posts.  Having lit 400 leds from an AA battery, (And also my earth battery as well) I have found that by manipulating frequency and on/off time, this works.  There may be something similar going on here as well.

But, to the naysayers of the JT circuit that point out that it is only going off/on faster than the eye can see, I say....so what?  I get the same amount of light for a lot less input. (each led I lit "takes" 3 volts at 20 ma"s each)

If it "looks" bright to me, I don't really care about the input/output figures.

Bill

Congrat Naudin!
It is a good measurement, but let me improve it with eliminating of HF currents cause unexpected brightness of the filament of the bulb inside. I propose the below diagram to create a DC with fast Graetz rectifier (HER308, 75ns, 1kV) diodes plus filter it with a HV capacitor. In addition I propose use something RF filter (you can buy one in a HAM shop or built from 2 chokes and 2 caps) between the Kapagen's MOT input side and the Voltcarft power meter to eliminate HF currents causes fault values. Maybe a good rectifier at the output stage is one step to looping back the whole RIG