I found an interesting website.I liked the article about stealth camping.It kind of goes along with my idea of stealth farming.http://www.off-grid.net/
triffid

Another site on eco-friendly homes.http://www.greenlivingonline.com/article/inside-americas-most-eco-friendly-homes

How amusing ! We look to these blogs while we miss the point. The middle class in the U.S. Is being systematically eliminated by the political elite. We are asked to sell our cars, down size our homes, extend the retirement age, pay more for everything while your Congress and the Corporate elite continue to benefit from the national despair.

well if haliburton follows thru on ending oil and switching to there green companies in one years as I heard while installing granite in there house they thought I was a plumber
but I wasnt I was listening to the whole phone call with David the ceo hes not the boss
just a puppet told to not make any decisions let the board do it there getting there accounting in order they have silicon cells to lead frequencies basically they convert the lead frequency into light frequencies by spliting it but they dont have uvc uvb uva But I do. but there only building silicon cells to make you buy solar over and over as they over power the grid and manipulate energy spikes but Im sabataging them before they get to bankrupt us again like 911 enron mortgage. there busses are set in order so when oil ends you have to use ther busses on natural gas and solar. at least in california they are. The dollar crashes with oil get out early keep your cash get gold read revelations the letter to the Dila oceans laodiceans

Quote from: triffid on August 09, 2010, 09:49:53 PM
How amusing ! We look to these blogs while we miss the point.

Well, I think the average American is only concerned with his immediate comfort, so you may be right?  He might not accept the failure of the economy as inevitable because he doesn't prefer to think of something that dire to his survival?  I think that's what "John Q. Public" thinks, anyway.

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The middle class in the U.S. Is being systematically eliminated by the political elite. We are asked to sell our cars, down size our homes, extend the retirement age, pay more for everything while your Congress and the Corporate elite continue to benefit from the national despair.

There may have been an Ancient Roman senator who could have said,
"As long as people are allowed to engage in their carnal lusts and be excused for their willful ignorance, they'll accept any kind of restriction or tyranny."
(paraphrased gist of the actual quote)

I agree.  This world may not be worth rescuing by now.  It's too far gone downhill.

--Lee