Quote from: Cloxxki on August 25, 2010, 08:55:13 AM
All seems to point to the math just not working at all, else Milkovic' devices would be powering themselves. No-one is so incompetent to find out new math, and not be able to exploit it.

You cannot use existing math theory to prove overunity.

Modern physics, and the math behind it, will always lead you into 2+2=4 theory.  You have to show that 2+2=5 to have overunity.  So there is no math answer under current math theory.

To come up with math that shows overunity, one must come up with new math.

Quote from: utilitarian on August 25, 2010, 06:17:18 PM
You cannot use existing math theory to prove overunity.

Modern physics, and the math behind it, will always lead you into 2+2=4 theory.  You have to show that 2+2=5 to have overunity.  So there is no math answer under current math theory.

To come up with math that shows overunity, one must come up with new math.

omnibus did... and shruggedatlas is supporting omnibus, so it must be real.
see the steorn thread.

Quote from: utilitarian on August 25, 2010, 06:17:18 PM
You cannot use existing math theory to prove overunity.

Modern physics, and the math behind it, will always lead you into 2+2=4 theory.  You have to show that 2+2=5 to have overunity.  So there is no math answer under current math theory.

To come up with math that shows overunity, one must come up with new math.

Not so. Math doesn't make physics. Physics makes math. The first thing to be understood is the physics that brings about OU. Once it is understood clothing it in math terms is trivial. No new math. Deeper understanding of physics is what occurs when discovering OU.

By the way, OU isn't 2 + 2 = 5. That's a wrong understanding as to what OU is.

Quote from: utilitarian on August 25, 2010, 06:17:18 PM
You cannot use existing math theory to prove overunity.
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To come up with math that shows overunity, one must come up with new math.

It's right. But Omnibus pretends he can. It is like proving that Krishna exists, using the bible.