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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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teslaalset

Quote from: yssuraxu_697 on June 06, 2011, 04:45:06 AM
Could you please upload sim file(s) somewhere?
Here for example: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads
Tweaking ready simulation is 100x easier than doing from scratch... :) Lately there's been so much new data hard to keep up.

Sorry, I won't upload the Maxwell sim files.
These will remain my own property, I have put a few hundred hours into that, so I am not going to share those with anyone just like that.
I have a precise model of the complete RomeroUK rig, including all mechanics and basic electronics, and also separate modeles of the rig, such as stator coil / moving magnet / bias magnet combination (discussed in the above reply #2524).

What I am willing to share are results and discuss those.

yssuraxu_697

Quote from: Tudi on June 06, 2011, 04:49:46 AMAs long as you are searching for an unknown

There is no "unknown effect" rather "unknown combination of known effects"...

yssuraxu_697

Quote from: teslaalset on June 06, 2011, 04:57:41 AMI won't upload the Maxwell sim files.

I understand. There's a line how much is reasonable to give out to keep the momentum of public research going and how much to keep private.

Quote from: teslaalset on June 06, 2011, 04:57:41 AMWhat I am willing to share are results and discuss those.

Did you simulate uneven arrangement of the stator mags also? I'n Roms setup there seem to be very large difference how much each coilpair is biased (with certain general pattern).
So far have not seen that feature replicated.

teslaalset

Quote from: yssuraxu_697 on June 06, 2011, 05:09:45 AM
I understand. There's a line how much is reasonable to give out to keep the momentum of public research going and how much to keep private.

Thanks for understanding that.

Quote from: yssuraxu_697 on June 06, 2011, 05:09:45 AM
Did you simulate uneven arrangement of the stator mags also? I'n Roms setup there seem to be very large difference how much each coilpair is biased (with certain general pattern).
So far have not seen that feature replicated.

At this moment I have modelled an exact copy of RomeroUKs rig, so 8 rotor magnets, 2x9 stator coils/bias magnets.

It's very easy to change the number of rotor magnets and stator coil/bias magnets in a Maxwell model, but that is for future investigations.
I like to stick to RomeroUKs model as accurate as possible for now.
(Like CLaNZeR does)

scratchrobot

Quote from: romerouk on June 05, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
Hi all,

I am here not to give you any info or directions regarding the Muller device, that is not going to be anymore but I am seeing a lot of people spending a lot of time and money thinking that just looking at my device is enough to make a 100% replication.
I hate to see people spending money on something they don't understand completely.

Most of the time is not what you see, is not in front of your eyes it is a bit more than that.

My advice to all of you is to stop working on the Muller device and just play with a simple rotor and 2 coils, one driving and one for collecting. When you will make that to speed under load or shorted then you can apply that to different even more simpler setups.

I know that most of you will say that the speed up will bring the rotor to the original speed where we don’t have the collector coil in place and there is no gain. Try and measure the speed before adding the collector coil then do the same when you shorted the coil. I think that is easy enough.

If you cannot get this effect then you will not be able to get to the next step and better stop before wasting any more time and money. My Muller device had a little bit from all of my discoveries during many years of building and testing and most of the time I failed in getting my goal but every time I have learned a bit more.

This arrangement is a complicated one and requires thousands of adjustments but it can be built in simpler ways.

Lately I have tried different toy size arrangements and I will build a total different type hopping that I am not going to upset anyone now.

I’ve got all the parts I have ordered before, thinking to get a bigger size Muller device and I will use them towards a different concept, nothing related to Muller idea.

Now again, I hope people will think many times before starting any project then decide what to do and please do not take my devices or ideas like an invitation to replicate, that is your decision, don’t blame me if you fail, we are all the same but still, not all can play football but we like to try and maybe we will learn.

Best Regards to all,
Romero

Hi Romero good to see you are still here, I tried to replicate your device but without success. I don't blame you for that because you warned us before. I will take your advice and start with simpler setup to see if I can get to the speed up under load.

Regards,
scratchrobot