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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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nul-points

Quote from: lasersaber on June 09, 2011, 12:24:19 PM
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Check out what MileHigh has to say about this effet over on the other forum:


i suspect that MH was talking about reversing the wires across the WHOLE coil pair - in which case he would be right

however, it appears that he was less than diligent in reading the thread properly, and so he missed the vital piece of information (only one coil reversed in the pair)


nice work laser!
np


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4Tesla

@lasersaber

Nice work!  Thank you for the update.

There is an inexpensive laser tachometer that works very well for $17 USD.  Worth every cent in a project like this.  Read the reviews.. only one on the following site, but test against top of the line model was good!
http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Digital-Laser-Tachometer-Contact/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1307471029&sr=8-12

Tesla

chrisC

Quote from: 4Tesla on June 09, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
@lasersaber

Nice work!  Thank you for the update.

There is an inexpensive laser tachometer that works very well for $17 USD.  Worth every cent in a project like this.  Read the reviews.. only one on the following site, but test against top of the line model was good!
http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Digital-Laser-Tachometer-Contact/dp/B004Q8L894/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1307471029&sr=8-12

Tesla

I have the same generic model as 4Tesla pointed out above. Only misgiving I have is that the RPM reading will only displayed (again) after you release the test button and press the Mem. button to see the lowest, fastest and stable speed. But you can't beat the price indeed. I paid less than $25.

chrisC

konehead

Baroutologos wrote:
Anyway, there is yet anyone to prove that this method works beyond dispute. To me your views are to be proven in actual experiments.

Kone replies:
Hi B
you use single diodes from each mosfet on the mechanical version.
it should be a FWBR - I think you are catching only half or part  of it - its not spikes, its HV and HF spikey-osicalltions created by coil short you are capturing into caps....

probably you dont collapse the coil long enough in the mechanical version just like I will guess in the solid state version too...but I dont know as is usual.

I dont know rpms of the N-S maget rotor spacing of magnets and inital draw and genrator coil output before shorting all sorts of things and like you said you dont want to bore everyone.

all you want to show at this stage is that you can take out power into caps without affecting draw to motor and when you do it right you should have somethign similar to what Lidmotor did - instantly 2 to 3 times more voltage in cap as compared to no shorting, and no affect on draw doing the coil shorting and filling the cap. I think Lidmotors video is very good "proof of principle" in operation (beyond dispute too)....way better proof that it WORKS as compared to your "proof from some experiments" that it doesnt.

Over a time period while shorting, say 10 or 20 seconds, you should have around 20 times more voltage in cap as what the base-voltage would be.
If you cant get this to happen, then its  working right and I doubt you can get some sort of voltage gain like that in what you have..

so my feeble advice is at this stage:
paralell lots of mosfets,
use FWBR with HV diodes
make sure coil collapses so play with pulse width alot
get timing perfect at the peak period
dont stop until you get the cap to climb to X20 more voltage...
what to .really look for is how fast the cap fills up and make sure it doesnt affect draw.

On romeromullergen subject, I will still stay with my theory that Romero's magnets quicly collapse field of coils with the instant-flipped polarity event of back-magnet to core....jsut like a coil-short,,,,and it does two good things; it pushes rotor away, when normally rotor magnet swill want to pull back, (mechanical good thing) and also increases voltage into cap at same time (electrical good thing)..
also the more power the coils make, the more the core will want to push rotor magnet away...timing is very important it HAS to happen at TDC of core to rotor magnets...(jsut like coil shoring timing see Lidmotors video)

ciaoK



hartiberlin

Quote from: lasersaber on June 09, 2011, 11:31:43 AM
Quick update.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVT5ZleK5rY

Great results Lasersaber,

about 1/2 Watt output without dropping the RPM ! Great.
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