Quote from: bolt on June 10, 2011, 08:41:17 AM
As i said for YEARS see my old posts. RLC tuning to VARS leads to OU using standard RF applied techniques. There is no wizardry here or swamp gas just a different way of thinking. Once you mastered the muller you will see it can easy be done solid state with some time and money or more simple magnet window motor running at 20,000+ RPM.

I don't want to offend you but this sounds like you think we're all dummies here.
If this stuff is so simple, I expect I would have seen some postings on working OU devices from you.

I tried connecting the scope parallel with an 1 ohm resistor and indeed I get the same waveform, see below.
But it look a bit to perfect compared with the scope shot from Romero. I also tried a few capacitors in series with the coil but then there is no current.

I tried the reverse top coil and that also gave me the waveform we are looking for and when playing with the magnets I could shape it also but only a few miliamps output

I also hope Romero can help us with that coil shorting video given to Clanzer?

Regards

Quote from: teslaalset on June 10, 2011, 08:56:17 AM
I don't want to offend you but this sounds like you think we're all dummies here.
If this stuff is so simple, I expect I would have seen some postings on working OU devices from you.

I was counting down the seconds before someone WOULD say just that. But i have seen looped gensets etc years ago on a private skype call and i mentioned in older post lots of things that 90% just sniggered and laughed but now its all slowly coming together.  But true enough its a open source collective issue as people wake up at last.

You know it takes R & D  cash to do anything i didn't even have a scope or any test equipment or money till this year.  Having lived in other countries my "workshop" had to fit in a suitcase so basically its taken a long time to rebuild from scratch. I am working on HHO instead for now as i needed access to real power not Joule Thief stuff.  I already got 2.2Kw genset running on 90% HHO and 10% LPG  which gives me a running cost MUCH lower than grid prices.  Getting OU has never really been an issue a JT is proof of concept. Its about what you can do with it after in real practical terms that makes a difference because no one else gives a sh$t if you have 1 watt OU or 1000.  Soon as people realise that the better. No one going to give you a fat check or suddenly all your money problems disappear overnight like a fat lotto win cos it ain't gonna happen.   Ask Ismael, Kapandze, SM, Romero etc. if OU bought them happiness and riches?

Quote from: scratchrobot on June 10, 2011, 09:05:38 AM
I tried connecting the scope parallel with an 1 ohm resistor and indeed I get the same waveform, see below.
But it look a bit to perfect compared with the scope shot from Romero. I also tried a few capacitors in series with the coil but then there is no current.

I tried the reverse top coil and that also gave me the waveform we are looking for and when playing with the magnets I could shape it also but only a few miliamps output

I also hope Romero can help us with that coil shorting video given to Clanzer?

Regards

Why do you want current for? do you WANT lugging? You only need a voltage standing wave to charge up the dump capacitor. then you measure the WATTS from there instead.

Quote from: penno64 on June 10, 2011, 08:19:55 AM
Hi Romero,

Hope you are keeping well.

Is it possible that you could give us a few clues/hints for the coil shorting video given to Clanzer.

I am trying to undertand the black wires going from the pickup coil. where do they connect into
your driver circuit.

Kindest Regards, Penno

Hi Penno,
just ignore the 2 black wires, those wires are connected to a FWBR then to the big blue capacitor.
Those where used before, to do some measurements and calculate the voltage drop...
At the time I was recording the video, the output from the capacitor was not connected to any source or any other load. I should have removed those wires to make it more clear.
What I was showing there is the simple  shorting of the coil not reducing the RPM but increasing, only that.
Don't associate that Muller experiment with this simple one thinking u got the answer, that one had multimple tricks and a bit of luck.
As I said before the Muller subject is closed for me, no questions - no answers.
When I will be posting here or on youtube I am refering to general experimenting an not climing that I am 100% right, I might be wrong too.
I have made another video where I have a different config and load too.(toy size)
I am posting the video here but I will not discuss details about it, sorry.
In general most of the people are jumping direct to heavier devices thinking to get a lot of power.... I think this is wrong, better understand every aspect then move forward.
I do appreciate more few m-volts or few m-amps where the difference of just even 0.1 amps will help you move on the other side of the technology.
Having o-scope is a must when you approach this fine tunnings, no o-scope then you will never get something, not even close
In general people building devices are not using the o-scope or even so they don't understand the waveforms. Can you people believe that first I NEVER calculate the wave forms, I am not even good enough for that, I am trying to understand it and do smaller steps to see why a scope looks like it looks.
I will post some of my recent scope shots that for most of you, as usual, will lead to Sherlok Holmes investigation.
All the best,
Romero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkV2Y4Yke4I