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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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k4zep

Quote from: romerouk on June 11, 2011, 07:25:42 AM
@Bruce_TPU
You've got the ideea!
People must be able to visualize and understand before starting any project. Use pen and paper(that is cheap) and don't spend money on parts and components unless u have no problem with that.
A specialized software program will help too but as u know these programs are built according to the existing known rules and inventions, many times are showing wrong indications.(I have seen wrong indications with my eyes)

@All
This month I have limited time to work and do experiments and I will take it more easy now.
I am still thinking to the best arrangement for my next project. All I have done lately is just testing and reconfirming some of my old experiments then I will take the best from the experiments confirmed.

Simple Example:
we have a rotor with NSNS and 2 coils, one to drive the rotor and one to collect.
the collector coil must have a core, any type but not air.
run it and measure the output of the collector and current going into the input coil
now to the end of the collector coil attach another core same type with the one used for the collector coil, same lenght too.
check the in and out - any change? good or bad?
check attaching only half lenght core - measure again ???
what about longer core.... measure again...
what about larger...?
this are simple  steps I take with most of my builds
I cannot teach you that, first make a list with what you think of and the rest comes while you work on the project.Write down every time you have discovered something, you leave it for later and you will forget.Write down all measurements.Check on the web too se if that has been observed by others.
All these requires a lot of patience and I am sorry to say it but not all of you have that.
The above experiment can be extended to a rotor  with all magnets NNNN or all SSSS and attaching small magnets or ceramic at the end of the extended core.
Now just a small tip for small projects: Zener diodes...

@Plengo
In my old underservice forum I had the ideea where every member on the forum will have his own channel where can post the work, pictures... something like the facebook or twitter but it can be done even here but only for people who will really show their work, even not very important thinks might be useful for many others.
Do you remember that youtube video posted by gotoluc some time back where he moved a magnet in front of the 2 microwave transformer coils? Well, that was a good inspiration for me and took it further. All I can say now is, thank you gotoluc!
As I read recently, even to show how to drill a hole in acrylic is very important for some, not everyone has good tools and can be shown to be done in easy steps and basic tools.
We all wish to have Clanzer machineries but unfortunalely many of us don't have enough funds even for proper living...

that is enough for now

Best Regards to all,
Romero

Thanks Romero,

I have been very quiet lately, working my butt off on my motor.  I have it running now, no generator coils as that is the next step.
Have taken all you have said to heart, answered  a lot of questions I had and theories I had worked up.  The motor runs from 4.5VDC to 18VDC +, The driver is JUST a hall effect, nothing more, air cores, @ 12VDC, only draws about 21mA when up to speed @ 1500 or so RPM.
So quiet you can hear the air rushing by the rotor which is made out of CD-R disc., per my friend Ossie.  Thanks for coming back.  Patience on this device is a must, you must almost be "driven" to work on it.....I took the clean low power way with my smaller device.
Anyway, Stay around, oh, you mentioned Zener diodes, at  less than 12VDC, a diode chain will produce a shunt regulator too.  Simple, efficient.  Picture of the "Art" I am working on,  sitting on desk, running on 9VDC battery.

Respectfully,
Ben K4ZEP


nightlife

Quote from: Artist_Guy on June 11, 2011, 01:26:17 AM

@nightlife  What are you referring to specifically? What will waste twice the energy?  Adding diodes between the N-A & S-B coils?

I shouldn't post this but what the heck.

Each coil has two poles but only one pole of each are being utilized. One coil with both poles being used will do the same work as two coils that only use one pole each. You only use the energy needed to power one instead of two. And insted of using just one magnet per, use two and utilize the pole not being fired to produce energy. The last issue is that the flux in the coils cores arent being flushed out. Thier polarities must be switched between magnets and the magnets polarities must be staggered. This will produce more energy and keep the coils cores from becoming permently magnitized. lets not forget that each time the coils are switched, the colasping fields can be collected.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: romerouk on June 11, 2011, 07:25:42 AM

Now just a small tip for small projects: Zener diodes...

Is that the single additional component that Romero talked about?
If the breakdown voltage is chosen to be near the voltage maximum of the
collector coil or the desired cap dump voltage, it would dump into the cap cyclically without the need of MOSFET circuits.
But maybe just for small projects as he sais.

The disadvantage (if it is one actually) is that the "switching" isn`t
as abrupt and fast as with FETs or spark gaps. But maybe that is not required.

@k4zep: You can get zeners also with breakdown voltages below 12 Volt, but you could also get away with chaining regular diodes i guess.

k4zep

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 11, 2011, 08:22:25 AM
Is that the single additional component that Romero talked about?
If the breakdown voltage is chosen to be near the voltage maximum of the
collector coil or the desired cap dump voltage, it would dump into the cap cyclically without the need of MOSFET circuits.
But maybe just for small projects as he sais.

@k4zep: You can get zeners also with breakdown voltages below 12 Volt, but you could also get away with chaining regular diodes i guess.

Howdy,

Was just talking about using regular diodes as a shunt regulator to control loop.  Zener's avail in a huge range, if used for other purposes,
in the output section, then zeners would be great also.

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

protein_man

@Bruce

Just playing with some ideas on paper, is this kinda what your talking about? See attached image.