here's new test rig in link below made especially to check out the trick of magnets behind tthe cores- I built two of these identical, and hope to loop via running one into other and vice versa...
its 5 coils vs 4 magnets...note the coils inside pvc tubes - it makes them mount to plate very strong. Coils are 16 strand  36GA very thin litz wire 96ft lengths
Wire is motor-rated and heavy build to the varnish...no twisting,  also layer of teflon plumbing tape over each layer wond onto ferrite core...
This motor goes about 3500rpm, with no loading, at draw of 200ma and 24V with helper regauging magnet behind the single motor coil's core. It draws 400ma without that magnet so the helper magnet really helps as that is its name..real term I think is regauging magnet since it regauages the core.....
havent got them on backsides of generator coils yet.
Crowbarring one generator coil with ammeter straight across makes 3.5A in AC on meter as quick test (motor slows and no voltage this but thats approx max amps) ...and each coil does 27VAC maximum volts with no load on coil rectified into DC cap...so figure about half the amps and half the volts when resistive loaded....making thes not go up in draw when loading is what it is all about for OU.... If the rotor speeds up with the loading, then its a looper eh...
going to try stringing all coils in series on one plate see what happens when they get shorted at the conglomeration of peaks all out of phase... also going to rectify each like Romero did, and run them series-cancaliiing in facing-pairs and throw in bolts AC cap in series test to try out the generator coil helping/regauaging magnet behind gencoils soon that is what I really want to see work...
here is the link to page on my site with pics:
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/5-coils-vs-4-magnet-small-motor-generator

Quote from: romerouk on June 21, 2011, 04:04:19 AM
^{I am not actually talking about blaming but some people here are confusing many times our opinions with blaming... our experiments with invitation to replicate and many other... as for me I think I allowed too much time  for this.
Romero}

<sup>Look RomeroUk, you started the speculations yourself, e.g. by mentioning two forum members that have witnessed your setup. I hope you realized in time that any home visits without having an NDA in place will harm future claims.

Don't get me wrong, I respect what you're doing, and meanwhile I have enough insights and own results to continue investing in this.
I have stopped publishing here for my own reasons, mainly because this thread is the playing field of only hardware replications.
There's more to this than only hardware replicaton to take this a few steps further.</sup>[/sup][/sup]

<sup>I think it is a pity that people discover something and then won't tell how they did it. I thought that that was where it is all about in this forum. I understand that it takes lot's of time and money to experiment so why can't we work as a team and share everything so we can move on making it better. This shit is going on for ages and people are just to selfish I guess

If I ever make a selfrunner I will put every detail on paper and share it with everybody. I don't care how many time or money it cost me. I don't care if people understand it, they can understand it later. What is the point of showing a video of a selfrunner and then don't tell how you did it?</sup>

Quote from: teslaalset on June 21, 2011, 05:17:58 AM
Look RomeroUk, you started the speculations yourself, e.g. by mentioning two forum members that have witnessed your setup.
I am just taking part in that puzzle.

Don't get me wrong, I respect what you're doing, and meanwhile I have enough insights and own results to continue investing in this.
I have stopped publishing here for my own reasons, mainly because this thread is the playing field of only hardware replications.
There's more to it than only hardware replicaton.

I said that two forum members  knows the complete story about what happend and only one member here saw it working. He also have a detailed video and if he wants I have no problem if he will post it.
At that time many friends came to my birthday and saw it running for hours while we made the barbecue, the table was used for the food and the unit sat down on the grass.
People will have all info in a patent that will eventually be accepted but as usual the patents will not reveal everything.

'There's more to it than only hardware replication.'  - that is 1000% correct!

@konehead
excellent job, I am confident you can show things in a different fashion.

Best Regards,
Romero

Quote from: scratchrobot on June 21, 2011, 06:14:49 AM
I think it is a pity that people discover something and then won't tell how they did it. I thought that that was where it is all about in this forum. I understand that it takes lot's of time and money to experiment so why can't we work as a team and share everything so we can move on making it better. This shit is going on for ages and people are just to selfish I guess

If I ever make a selfrunner I will put every detail on paper and share it with everybody. I don't care how many time or money it cost me. I don't care if people understand it, they can understand it later. What is the point of showing a video of a selfrunner and then don't tell how you did it?

@scratchrobot
  It is not about money spent but more.We will always find people saying that it is not possible to build something like this and I understand them fully.One of the friends who saw it working (science teacher) still believes that it is not possible and must be a trick, power lines, even if I don't have any arround my house.
This is not free energy, we call it free because we don't pay for it but there is always a source.
We transfer energy from different mediums and it is not to be considered as a perpetum mobile because it's not. We still need to maintain and change different parts from time to time.

Some time ago I said that I might start building small self running devices, like a small rotor that runs itself and sell them to the people for a small price.I am more and more thinking how to do that to sell it but keep the idea covered.Again, this is different than my ex Muller device.
I am sure many of you are looking to have something like that and after first 2-3 buyers you will all know if it was real or not.If I can protect it somehow I will send first one free to Stefan, the ou.com administrator.
Another problem is that in a small toy device is no place for any error and  makes it more difficult to build.This is not a promise but I will try my best.
Magnacoaster is trying for years now to release their machines but one of the problem is also how to cover the setup and make it not easy to replicate.The moment one device goes to the market then most of the sells are going to stop because people can replicateand all money spent will never be recovered.
When you look at Magnacoster setup and see the size of the coils and the claim that you can get so many watts from them you will start laughing and say, oh yes, this is impossible.Is it?
Is Aviso device a fake? I don't think so.
Why are the patents refused for sensitive devices?
Obama stated that another financial Armaghedon will start if no more borowing by 2 August. In my opinion the financial world will colapse anyway and is no other chance but to allow to have new technology to the market and spend less for the energy.That will be a good start.



Regards,
Romero