Quote from: Barab on June 21, 2011, 02:08:40 PM
^{As a former US Patent Examiner, I can tell you that no patent application would even be looked at that hinted at OU, unless the device was brought in and demonstrated to work as described.  So, if Romero is saying there is a patent out there for this device then either it has been shown to work in a demo to the patent office, or the device was not claimed to put out more energy than the input requires.  If no demo has been done, and if Romero is so inclined, he could therefor patent the device with a successful demo, because a self running motor would be a new and unexpected result.  But, if I remember correctly, only up to one year after it is public knowledge can it be patented.  Not sure about other countries patent law though.}

<sup>Well, if so, how do you explain the SAWS document at the US Patent Office website?  Doesnt sound like you might walk out the doors empty handed. Who knows, maybe empty minded.  =0

Mags</sup>

Hi bolt:
   Thank you very much to help you copy RomeroUK device, And your help is very valuable to everyone.
   However: many of my friends in English is not good, Not well understood your help,
   So: very much hope that you can use to indicate picture, So that we can fully understand your help.

Thank you for all the help!

I would definately buy a unit.

Quote from: altair on June 21, 2011, 05:50:52 PM
I like the idea of a "Lego set" .

However, my idea would be that the inventor sends (for a pre-determined donation amount) :
* A small working device that will allow a realistic demonstration of the effect.
* A complete document explaining exactly what makes the device perform, and all the theory that can then be applied to other experiments and larger devices.
* The password to a secured forum where all donators can discuss the device and propose / experiment new improvements.

I think that this would insure a constant monetary revenue to the inventor, while allowing controlled dissemination of the knowledge.
And all the expenses and hassles of a patent are avoided.

What do you think ?

Altair

http://www.mullerpower.com/index2.php#NEWS1

And all spelled out : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70E0Q_pCB-4&feature=player_embedded#at=145

I want some feedback on this mod I am suggesting.   If the iron cores are changed to core rods with slots for a screwdriver then the coils could be adjusted instead of messing with set distances from the rotor plate.  Then it will be only a matter of calibrating the outputs of each coil to be delta zero's of each other.  I have done a lot of calibration alignments over the years and see this as a method of tuning this application quickly and reproducibility.  I am talking about the original Romero/Muller machine not any others, though this method will work for the others as well.  Thank you all.

Quote from: altair on June 21, 2011, 05:50:52 PM
I like the idea of a "Lego set" .

However, my idea would be that the inventor sends (for a pre-determined donation amount) :
* A small working device that will allow a realistic demonstration of the effect.
* A complete document explaining exactly what makes the device perform, and all the theory that can then be applied to other experiments and larger devices.
* The password to a secured forum where all donators can discuss the device and propose / experiment new improvements.

I think that this would insure a constant monetary revenue to the inventor, while allowing controlled dissemination of the knowledge.
And all the expenses and hassles of a patent are avoided.
What do you think ?
Altair

I agree as well, with the expectation that on this private forum, a small 'company" would be organized to encourage "associates" of the inventor to build or disseminate power units locally, to encourage the RAPID spread of the devices to homes and communities.
Also, the "private forum" would need to be VERY private; there are ways to do this -- should the inventor choose such a strategy. 
Again -- the idea is DE-centralization of the building and dissemination, so that it can "go viral".  Thanks -- Steven J

@Romero -- would you rather not have your new device called a "Muller device"?
If this is the case, what would you call it?