Hi Ben,

I think you really need to stop thinking "in the normal way".

Flip your top coils (simply swap your wiring so the coils do not add), so that
you would expect vout to be zero, then begin tuning from there.

Lenz is very much less.

Of course, voltage out is less too, but I think one of us is soon to hit that magic spot.

Penno

Quote from: penno64 on June 22, 2011, 08:58:24 AM
Hi Ben,

I think you really need to stop thinking "in the normal way".

Flip your top coils (simply swap your wiring so the coils do not add), so that
you would expect vout to be zero, then begin tuning from there.

Lenz is very much less.

Of course, voltage out is less too, but I think one of us is soon to hit that magic spot.

Penno

Hi Penno,

I have been thinking so abnormal for so long, I am in a loop.  Have done that switching, every combination of direction of windings, Bifilar, quadfilar, bucking boosting, magnets, Lenz is still there and dependent on the voltage/current.  What are we missing.  R's has NO lenz as no change in RPM WITH LOAD and NO LOAD, WHY? I only hope his load Was on the rotor and not on just the battery!.......I hope someone hits it, I don't care who does it, but something has to give!  IF coils are switched and perfectly matched, bucking, distance/resistance/inductance and alignment, output will be zero and no lenz, only drag will be hystersis, etc, but no output is nada, just that.  Thanks for the idea though!

I'm going to take a break I think!

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

Quote from: penno64 on June 22, 2011, 08:58:24 AM
Hi Ben,

I think you really need to stop thinking "in the normal way".

Flip your top coils (simply swap your wiring so the coils do not add), so that
you would expect vout to be zero, then begin tuning from there.

Lenz is very much less.

Of course, voltage out is less too, but I think one of us is soon to hit that magic spot.

Penno

I also think we should not think "in the normal way" and expect the unexpected

@Ben, thank you for the suggestions I wil try them and report if I find anything abnormal.

Quote from: romerouk on June 21, 2011, 03:41:48 AM
@wattsup
I have not seen the videos again but those 2 wires are going to the botom coil or from the lower coils to the controller.Again, I am so stupid to make a fake and go with the camera there to show it.

----- Where are those wires going in the suspended video?can you identify them?----

There are many other points that were recorded but people did't pay attention and ask why is that...
The new build what u see is just like a frame, the space in between the thin acrylic sheets will be filled making a big and solid coil holder, I need to wire all coils first as I will have no more access there after plastic filling.

Regards, Romero

@Plengo

Out of common courtesy to @Romerouk, he asked me, or challenged me to find the  wires as he states in the suspended video. I must say his control in handling the camera was impeccable, but not 100%.

Anyways, in case you do not let me post my findings here, I have posted at the usual place here.....

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1003.msg15048#msg15048

wattsup

PS: Sorry to have bothered so many great minds.

^{added by moderator: thank you wattsup for being very polite and straight to the point in a effective manner.}

nul-points

As i said i really don't know how to use a scope but i took another few shots.

Today i bouth the new coil that are the same as romero's. i'm going to wind some to see how they behave