@Hoppy,

Battery voltage is dropping under load, not rising.

Thank you,

yfree

Hi all, to fast forward thru next 50 pages I did a drawing of certain point in time of the single coilpair's life.
Pair is connected in fashionable canceling way.
I'm sure many tried this or equivalent setups and did come up with nice round zero on the outer ends.
Now the thing is many seem to be sure that there is other, non-zero option, would you be so kind
to add whats missing/wrong on the picture.

Thanks MK1 for the response and if you have any more later I'm all ears

I've got a question for anyone with thoughts on this and a thought for everyone.  How important is it likely to get the same number of turns wound onto each coil?  That's the ? and now the thought:

This is a very general idea.  For most people it is natural to want to make or build everything with symmetry and make everything balanced and equal.  However we already see in this Muller-Romerouk device that there are some obvious unbalanced things like the number of rotor magnets to the number of coils.  Maybe we need to think more about causing an imbalance in a build as nature always wants to come in and balance things and maybe that is where the energy comes in.  We are all familiar with Tesla's statement about energy and the wheelwork of nature.  Just something to ponder...

Quote from: yfree on June 22, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
@Hoppy,

Battery voltage is dropping under load, not rising.

Thank you,

yfree

Then are you suggesting that Romero's setup is not running OU?

Hoppy

yssuraxu:
you dont have AC cap in series on one AC leg of FWBR on the way to capacitor.
this is hte whole trick seems to me most everyone is leaving out.
Sure hook up the facing pari of coils "cancelling series" and you get 0 volts. THats why nobody in right mind would hook up genrator coils like this.

BUT when you add AC cap in series it throws  the coils into a resonate condition by lagging the current from the volts 90 degrees, which is one "definition of a resonant condition" I guess when that is occuring.
At this "timing" of volts and current then volts when it is mxacimum, is also same time when current is minimal and when current is maximum voltage is minimum...so you need to have that going on, or forget about it.

Look Bolt's posts about this maybe 10 or 20 pages back.

My theory on Romeros looper, since he had no AC series caps (but did say that it is "easier" to do it that way) is that he used the AIRGAP-RATIO BETWEEN THE TOP AND BTTOM COILS TO THE ROTOR MAGNET as way to do same thing.

So lets say you have 2mm airgap betwen top coil and rotor magnet,  and say for example 10mm airgap between bottom coil and rotor magnet.

Now the top coil will have maiximum current much sooner than the bottom coils....and if you adjust the ddifference (ratio) of airgap bwteen top and bototom coil alot of times (hundreds like Romero said) then you can get the coils to go into a resonate state just from the airgap difference/ratio

this is jsut theor ry I havent tried it out yet But someone give it a shot eh.

The stationary magnes behind the core I think work for different reason - to flip polarity of core right at TDC mommetn so it gives a push instad of backwards lenz-pull....but eveyone says the inductance of hte coils (als the cores?) change from that magnet behind coil so maybe it does somethign to the voltage "timing" as when that core flips, it must cause a great spike, like shorting a coil would do, or the backemf/recoil from a pulsed coil at turn-off.

Ben:
I dont think you got yroue coils to be in series-cancelling mode, and resonanting at same time with the series AC caps and instead you went more for the paralell cap which I dont think its possibe to jam one coil out of phase to the other as bolt explains with a pareallel cap so that one sereis-connected coil is max other is mimimal type of resonate condiiton....but maybe with different airgaps to top and bottom coils its possible, I think like Romeor did.
He MUST have got those dinky coils resonating to get that much power out of them, OR COIL SHORTING THEM - then expect same amps but X20 voltage....Romero didnt do coil shorting; in where you simply connect leads of coil together right at peaks, collapse it, open switch, and let it rip into DC caps through bridge. (all must happen very fast right at peaks so no lenz lug)
BUT mabye the polarity flip of caused by magnet behind cores did a sort of similar thing to coil-short where it instantly collapses the coil during the coil flip (all kone-world theory but sounds good I think)

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