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Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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Collapsingfield

@all

Why is the rpm constant with and without load? - The trick is simple: Romero use his rig  all time with load! He gave us info:
1. In suspended mode he use shunt, but no more info
2. He mentioned Zener.
3. He didn't want to answer why need the extra cable (black and red x) (Yes, this is a trick, but different as Wattsup think)

I think there is a big 15v Zener diode hidden by stator. This way all time will be 15v in the big capacitor. Certainly this is load, but it is good for stabilize the working conditions, and it is simpler to tune the gaps, RPMs, and so on.
When you connect the load (bulb), it will get amperage from the Zener, but because of the characteristic of the Zener the voltage will remain 15v. (Certainly this is true with the planned load, any more watt will slow the system, as Romero mentioned).
So this is why so big the consumption of the driver coils "without" load.

Best Regards
Collapsingfield

bolt

Quote from: altair on June 23, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Series or parallel  phase angle---- :-\

From http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/serres.html

either for a series OR a parallel circuit, we don't get 90 degrees offset when at resonance.
In a Parallel circuit, the V and I are in phase.
In a Series circuit, the V and I are 180deg out of phase.

It is then ONLY when the frequency is either above or below resonance that it is possible to get 90 degrees offset. (or any number of degrees, depending on how close or far the frequency is form the resonance freq of the tuned circuit.

So, we need a precise control of the rotation RPM of the rotor, to be able to obtain a stable 90 deg phase shift.
That would mean drive the rotor from an active frequency generator, instead of just self-pulse from fixed sensors & magnets...

I know this is going away from the RUK design, but maybe this is because his generator was difficult to tune.

But first of all, do we really need to have that 90 deg phase shift  ???

Altair

Forget about the actual phase its about the relationship BETWEEN the current and the voltage needs to be 90 degrees.  As the RPM changes the angular relationship between the 90 degrees perfect offset will drift to a point where ZPE is no longer available and the system no longer reactive and drops back to old fashioned watts, heat, lugging and crap basically. Thane only see this from the point of high voltage i don't think he fully realised a low voltage high current coil can do the same if counterbalanced with large enough AC tuning capacitors.

Hoppy

Quote from: bolt on June 23, 2011, 03:58:05 PM

or HV discharge into Tesla tower lighting florescent tubes then add inductance in series and TUNE to the Tesla tower power drops to almost ZERO watts while the florescent tubes are now working in capacitative scaler.  This is Tesla secrets he called this RESONANCE but it totally different to how you see resonance.



@ Bolt,

Can you please explain the difference between Tesla's resonance and the conventional view of resonance. From what you have said in the past about the importance of V & I being out of phase in a series resonant circuit, then you are presumably referring to Tesla resonance, not conventional resonance??

Hoppy

itsu


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Remember that at resonance , I and v are in phase in a series tuned circuit . I have a feeling that at resonance in a PARALLEL tuned circuit , I and V are out of phase by either 90 degrees or 180 degrees , not sure which . This is connecting the cap across the coils .

Neptune,  sorry no,  not in my textbook.
At resonance, both in series and in parallel, Xc and XL cancel each other out resulting in pure resistance.
In pure resistance, there is no phase shift between "i"and "v".

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It doesn't matter power factor zero is the same as VSWR = infinity.   We don't care how you achieve this condition but if your motor or coils is inductive then you add capacitance tuned VERY carefully  to achieve this as standing wave. There are some circuits predominately capacitive like errmm i dunno HHO cells plates are the cap so you ADD inductance in series to make an  OU amount of HHO This is Myers secrets.

Bolt,  so when you say VSWR = infinite, that means that all the energy is reflected back as being in an open circuit/transmittionline  (sorry, thinking as a radio ham here), right?

Dealing with about 120Hz, then one wavelength would be around 2500Km so when aiming for VSWR = infinite, i would need to be on a quarter wavelength = 625Km.

Having coils of 2x 300 turns on a sewing bobin = about 60 meters, i am way off, right?

So i am lacking inductance plenty, so need to add inductance, right?

Sorry to push,  but there is so much confusion here, so any clear explanation would be welcome.

Regards itsu 

altair

I can't believe that this whole thread will have been just for a damn resonating L-C bank !
There MUST be something else that Romero has been hiding.
What's the point of coming here to brag about an OU generator, and NOT give all the design details  ???   >:(

IF the 90 deg phase shift is really necessary, what do we do with it ?
Knowing that Lenz effect is closely related to the CURRENT passing through the coil, would it be thinkable to harvest the voltage from the coils during periods of zero current ?
But we all "know" that voltage without current is not really useful, right ?

Romero, if you're not going to tell the secret, could you at least give us a list of the patents you have been reading lately.  :'(
Please.

Altair