Quote from: altair on June 23, 2011, 06:30:21 PM
"Funny how simple that sounds...   

Something is missing.............. something is missing"



Totally un-necessary insult.
F. Y.

Hey it was a joke!  Look im not saying everyone here is brain dead but i just want you think a bit about this. I know for a fact there are Rotoverter systems that are looped and or have a very high COP.  One in Canada he been making now the last 6 months and its about 2kw o/p for about 100 watts i/p. I don't think this one is looped yet but there are others in Dom Rep, Norway, Sweden etc All these systems use this reactive power i told everything i know and if there are more secrets then Romero is not telling.

Quote from: Tudi on June 23, 2011, 05:05:54 AM
This whole thread is about speedup under load. And i can't remember one feedback that states if speed without coil ( at fixed input power ) is smaller then after adding a generator coil ( having the same or less input power ). Until we get at least one feedback on this we can theorize about stuff as much as we want.

I find it striking logical that if your rotor speed up under load then there should be a load that will maximize your speed. Use this SPECIFIC LOAD ( tune to specific load is secondary topic subject ). See if you can scale the effect by adding a second generator coil after the first one. If you must separate completly the output of coil 1 from coil 2 if they break the effect of the speedup or coil 2 requires a different load size.
Until now i seen posts confirming the speedup with the load, but i haven't seen anyone stating if they managed to add a second coil and how that scaled the output / input. Yes i seen mariouscivic ( if i recall corectly ) connecting all coils and stating that he has issues with 2 generator coils. What happened after that ? No idea.

Can anyone give feedback about scaling this speedup effect ? How many coils can you put on the rotor and you still get the speedup ? ( or input power reduction ). If this has no limit then there is no limit to OU amount.

@ Tudi

I can tell you that with 2 DRIVING coils, the rotor will speed up until whatever the rotor driver & friction mechanics dictate at that DC In voltage. In my case at roughly 12V with 2 drivers it will be 1423 RPM at roughly 460mA.
Now, with one pickup (Generator) coil and a big cap and a bulb, the Cap climbs to roughly 4.5V at around 100mA with say 1000 RPM (can't remember exactly). Adding a second pick-up coil will drop the speed to around 890 RPM or thereabouts but the voltage will climb to around 5V AND the load (bulb) current will increase to about. 120mA  So just scaling pickup coils is not the answer. It's way off -  something like 10%.
So, I think what is needed is a timing mechanism based on the off time s of the Hall sensors and the relevant rotor magnets to effectively reduce the effect of Lenz's law. This is what I am working to understand.

cheers
chrisC

Quote from: gyulasun on June 23, 2011, 05:31:11 PM
Hi chrisC,

I have answered to you here but surely there were so many posts you may have not noticed:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg292308#msg292308

Regarding your thoughts on the generator coils biasing I do not think it is involved here. Why would you furnish precious input energy to work against the main forward direction?

Gyula

@gyulasun
Thanks. I did see that reference you posted and I believe the resistor limiting base current is not going to affect the TIP42C  emitter current that much. He's running off 12V battery power and that 1N4007 even if at reversed biased charging (the battery) should not have pulled so much extra power. Anyone here running about the same spec. as Romero's device drawing 1A standby and my guess is no more than 1400 RPM? Please let me know. Maybe I'm totally off track but it may be an indication of something R did to create a biased standby condition which aids the run time performance. Thanks guys.

chrisC

Quote from: baroutologos on June 23, 2011, 06:14:52 PM
@Bolt,

Man, you keep repeating the same motto as if you are an answering machine or something. You must be aware, that your sayings (the full picture) does not make sense almost to no-one for a OU viable outcome.

We lack brains? Perhaps we do. If i were you, and had confidence in my theories and results, i would formulate a video series, much like zerofossilfuel, termed how to achieved OU out of a rotor-stator setup. Self explanatory, step by step video series, with measurments scope shots, etc.

Take your time, or this discussion about OU in ZPE and resonance and 90degree V I out of phase could be endless with 0 practical result.

What you say?

Baroutologos you used to hang out on Romero's forum did you not? I dunno where that is now may have been taken down. But i am sure you are privy to more information from Romero's early testing and building then anyone else. Perhaps you should write up an article to collate all this information prior to THIS thread may explain if we missed anything. Was that forum archived? is there a link?

Quote from: bolt on June 23, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
Baroutologos you used to hang out on Romero's forum did you not? I dunno where that is now may have been taken down. But i am sure you are privy to more information from Romero's early testing and building then anyone else. Perhaps you should write up an article to collate all this information prior to THIS thread may explain if we missed anything. Was that forum archived? is there a link?

I uploaded a link here with what I had archived of his forum and then I think user Freeenergyinfo posted it also and may have added one more page of the forum.  I forget the details but it's somewhere in this 235 pages