Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 347 Guests are viewing this topic.

itsu

Bolt,  thanks for the attempts to explain.

I somehow have the feeling that you are trying to explain an "unconventional effect" with conventional wisdom  :)

To recap:

# We need some "90 degrees relationship BETWEEN the current and the voltage",
   but its NOT "phase shift" as you said: "Forget about the actual phase"
 
# if it is NOT "the actual phase" (phase shift caused by Xc and/or Xl i understand),
   that could mean running in resonance (series or parallel) as that has NO phase shift
   caused by Xc/Xl as they cancel each other out.

# when VSWR = infinite, this means the circuit is (or behaves like) open.
   When the circuit is open, we can not extract power from it, so it must be that the circuit behaves like open".

# a perfect LCR circuit in parallel resonance has an infinite resistance, which is the same as "open"

# in parallel resonance, which act as an open circuit, we have VSWR = infinite (open circuit), which causes a 180 degree phase (this is a different phase shift as being     caused by Xc and/or Xl) change see: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/standw.html#c1

Considering the above, would it be plausible (i know, its a mythbusters term) that we are trying to have the both "in series" generator coils run in parallel resonance using the coils own selfresonance capability (no extra parallel capacitance).
This way we have VSWR = infinite (well, almost), and giving 180 degrees phase shift.

The problems i have with this is that:
a) to have those small coils (2x 1.7mH) go into selfresonance on about 160Hz (1200Rpm) needs extra parallel capacitance.
b) In this situation we should have 180 degrees phase shift, which is NOT your "90 degrees relationship BETWEEN the current and the voltage".
   And i fail to see how we can create a "90 degrees relationship between current and voltage" by adding a specific capacitance in series without upsetting (killing) the    (parallel)selfresonance condition.
   Or did you mean 180 degrees phase shift all along?

Regards Itsu

ndh16

If possible, I am still trying to understand the various builds & modifications in terms of traditional resonance effects (where appropriate).  In those builds involving an AC capacitor attached in series to each generator coil, I would assume that series resonance may still be relevant  - especially  the possibility of voltage magnification effects due to that resonance.

However, in many of these cases, I remain perplexed as to whether some of the builds are properly exploiting voltage magnification effects.

My understanding of the theory is that voltage magnification takes place across the inductor or  capacitor ( taken alone), and in that case  Vout = Q x Vin (where  Vin is the induced AC signal which arises in the coil but can be modelled as a separate source in series with the coil). The existence of two equal coils series linked would merely divide that voltage magnification so that half would appear across each coil.

If, instead, the voltage is taken across the coil(s) plus capacitor (taken together), then Vout would simply be the same as Vin without any voltage magnification. This is illustrated in the following circuit diagrams A to C. It seems at least some builds correspond to A (no magnification), whilst the modification described by  mariuscivic in post #3469 (shortening one of the coils to beyond the capacitor) corresponds to B (half magnification) , whereas  all these builds should be based on C if full voltage magnification is desired.


Regards,
Nigel

caccr2000

eliminado porque no va con el tema

Tudi

magnetic motor ? Seen so many videos that were posted for years on youtube. The result ? Do you see them being used ? Why ? Maybe the "fuel" they consume is not so cheap ? We already seen motors that are based on PM demagnetization. This magnetic motor replication was posted by asians, indians, americans, spanish, turkish, german .... replicators but for some reason no spec was released and the technology never catched on. Why ? There's got to be a reason. Maybe it is like with that PM wheel  that is OU when measured but your looped rotor will still stop after a while ( days ).

stprue

Quote from: penno64 on June 24, 2011, 07:21:23 AM
Maybe we should jump ship ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfg4ZLFWSG8&feature=feedlik

Penno

Amazing vid.  I have sent the inventor an email in hopes of getting a schematic for his design.