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Muller Dynamo

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mondrasek

#4065
July 08, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
Quote from: darkwanderer on July 08, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
Great work mondrasek. You are really close to solve the romero's device. But i have one question if you can answer it. Ä°f you change the capacitor at the output how the rotor respond to it? Is it accelerating or slowing?

Note: The load was changed from the small lamp (14.4V 100mA) to a 330 Ohm 1/2W resistor on a single coil pair.

No load 47000u/25V   RPM     Vin     Iin
                                2082   14.92  .354
330 Ohm load            1774   14.92  .364

No load 2200uF/16V   RPM     Vin     Iin
                                2162   14.92  .376
330 Ohm load            1885   14.91  .387

No load 1000uF/35V   RPM     Vin     Iin
                                 2129   14.92  .368
330 Ohm load             1843   14.92  .376

Sorry I don't have a better array of caps to check.  These are just the ones I salvaged from the VCR PS where I got a replacement head stator drive board for this contraption.  I don't have a supply of components to chose from.

Let me know if you see anything of potential importance.

Thanks,

M.

David70

#4066
July 08, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
@wattsup
i have tested the circuit with and without that resistor and it makes no difference.i run it as low as 4 volts and i get the same speed, 366RPM. I think it looks like that because the video was done inside and not too much light.

David

Magluvin

#4067
July 08, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
Was thinking.  The 2 drive coils.  1 has a hall sensing the perimeter of the rotor, and 1 sensing above the rotor.

I imagine the time on/off are different to each other.

Also,  the no. of gen pulses before 1 drive coil gets pulsed is more than the other.  Doesnt make good or common sense to do it this way.  And why not time both drivers at 2 points at the perimeter?

My thought is, maybe he is shorting 1 of those so called drive coils, and there just may only be 1 driver set. The rest may be gens and 1 of them is a shorter.  Maybe

I only came up with this stuff because I question why things are the way they are.

The 1 coil that gets less charge pulses before it fires, must have a weaker drive pulse than the drive coil that gets more before it fires.

But then again, big cap loaded to say 12v, the first drive coil fires and brings the cap to say 9v, and the few gen pulses before the second coil fires brings the cap back up some..  And it just may be that we dont need all the gens to keep it running as we are suppose to have enough to run a 20w bulb also.

I feel it is a lot to ask of all those gen coils to keep the 47000uf cap full, self runing and the bulb, but thats only because I havt seen it yet. ;]


Mags

darkwanderer

#4068
July 09, 2011, 02:38:38 AM
Quote from: mondrasek on July 08, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
Note: The load was changed from the small lamp (14.4V 100mA) to a 330 Ohm 1/2W resistor on a single coil pair.

No load 47000u/25V   RPM     Vin     Iin
                                2082   14.92  .354
330 Ohm load            1774   14.92  .364

No load 2200uF/16V   RPM     Vin     Iin
                                2162   14.92  .376
330 Ohm load            1885   14.91  .387

No load 1000uF/35V   RPM     Vin     Iin
                                 2129   14.92  .368
330 Ohm load             1843   14.92  .376

Sorry I don't have a better array of caps to check.  These are just the ones I salvaged from the VCR PS where I got a replacement head stator drive board for this contraption.  I don't have a supply of components to chose from.

Let me know if you see anything of potential importance.

Thanks,

M.

It's ok about the caps no problem at all.But your results seems really weird. A lot of questions appeared in my mind about your test results. I need more data to answer them but i don't want to bore you with my questions. I think the time has come to make my own dynamo.I'm gonna make horizontal type as soon as my ordered items come. Thank you for your attention about my thoughts. I hope the idea of using voltage difference between capacitor and coil as a switch will lead us to a selfrunner device. We need more experiments, more calculations, according to these we need to change some variables as constants in our design.

One last thing that i can't stop myself asking to you is that do you have 180 degree phase shift between your voltage and current wave form? According to this question i will demand a circuit diagram of how you measure these wave forms.

Thank you and good luck with your work  :)

FreeEnergyInfo

#4069
July 09, 2011, 04:10:25 AM
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