Quote from: Super God on July 25, 2011, 12:09:38 AM
Also, do we need to use a capacitor to resonate with the coil at that frequency, thus giving us the out of phase current (vars) that we want? Sounds reasonable to me.

Actually I think the "virtual switch" created by the FWBR and Dump Cap bias voltages is creating the out of phase current condition automatically.  Since the coils do not "see" the load until they have generated a voltage that is higher than the sum of those two bias voltages, we effectively tap into the coil voltage only after it is high.  This, in effect, means "current" cannot flow until Vout is high.  THIS means that current is always forced to lag Vout.  The result:  VARs only.  A completely reactive system.  Zero in phase current.

M.

Anything happening on each pair of gen coils before the fwbr will never be out of phase with other coil pairs after the fwbr because now it is dc and there is no dc out of phase. In Romeros build, each pair is in phase because they get hit at the same time and their pole switching happens at the same time. But put the top coils in series (then each of the three get hit at different times) and now you will have three out of phase events happening on the top coils and three out of phase events on the bottoms coils now all happening before one fwbr.

wattsup

Actual screen shot of V (large wave) and C (small wave "blips") before the FWBR.  Please note that the probe for the C was not set up correctly so you need to invert that wave form in your mind.

The current does not flow until the V in the coil is greater than the sum of the FWBR diode bias voltage plus the V that exists in the dump cap.  So current does not flow until V is already high.  This creates the same effect as if the current was out of phase with the voltage:  VARs.

Quote from: wattsup on July 25, 2011, 09:17:28 AM
Anything happening on each pair of gen coils before the fwbr will never be out of phase with other coil pairs after the fwbr because now it is dc and there is no dc out of phase. In Romeros build, each pair is in phase because they get hit at the same time and their pole switching happens at the same time. But put the top coils in series (then each of the three get hit at different times) and now you will have three out of phase events happening on the top coils and three out of phase events on the bottoms coils now all happening before one fwbr.

wattsup

You are correct about the fact that the coil pairs under each other are not out of phase.
But since Romero's top and bottom coils (at one pair) are wound in different directions and are therefore in opposing bucking configuration, they are out of phase.

I believe that the standing wave voltage nodes are
establishing across the AC legs of the FWBR in each individual generator coil pair circuit.

Some interesting quotes:

QuoteThere is a moment where
all the coils are sequential setting up
momentary standing waves between the
inductor coils L and the dump cap C.

QuoteBifilar coils create out of phase
condition its the same as cap  tuning
to create a standing wave.  Dump cap
fills near INSTANTLY when hit by
longitudinal waves into the coil there
is a lot of power here when done correctly

QuoteAll this circuit is doing is POWER FACTOR CORRECTION of out of phase signals from coils forming  incremental standing waves hitting the cap. The load is critical tuning will be really twitchy as hell. Your scope shot has rounded loaded tops and bottoms you are not tuned its over coupled. Bottom trace jagged all over the place each coil should be making same size incremental increasing voltages as rising saw tooth.

Anyone interested in experimentally looking into this, please feel free to participate here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11253.0

Some thoughts after a day of tinkering with my test rig.  Series bucking can make power, the further the top coil was away from the rotor the higher the volts. I was unable to lower the bottom coil much as with both coils having some distance the drive coils were now not as effective. But what I really think is odd, is that in bucking configuration when load is applied rpm loose is minimal and even in dead short the rotor slows no more then if it seen a few leds.  Now short a series adding coil and the rotor wants to come to a halt. This could be because of the larger air gap of the bucking coil?  Then I remembered, Romeros was tuned to a load, if you pulled to much it would stop... makes me think the coils were in adding configuration? Well I have to head to work for the day, happy building and hope to see some good post in 9 hours.
Peace
rawbush