Shoes work better in pairs too.Another saying I ran across latelyAlso dinosaurs were once not just oil.I will have to correct myself about compost piles.The really large ones can get so hot as to catch fire.So as a renewable energy source maybe I can heat a house in winter with a big compost pile?Compost piles will be with us a long,long time on this planet.triffid

Got melting metal on your mind?  http://backyardmetalcasting.com/  tells you how to do it!!! triffid

Quote from: Justsomeguy on September 15, 2011, 11:55:21 PM
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
It's a classic, but i had so say it.

I mentally chuckle.   LOL.    It's really dated now, with the exception of where I live in a police-state-slum-gangland-war-zone.  They arrive loaded for bear and sporting a bad attitude.  They(the cops) need to, though.  This place sucks, bites and blows!

Later reedit,
All the more reason:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/16/news/economy/bloomberg_jobs_riots/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2

--Lee

Thanks Lee for the link to that jobs report.Its exactly what I was talking in the newspaper report that I read.A whole generation of college grads can't find jobs.  The economy added no jobs in August, according to the Labor Department, for the first time since February, 1945.

The unemployment rate is 9.1%, but many experts say that figure is misleading. They prefer to use the so-called underemployment rate, which includes people who have given up their search for jobs as well as people who want to work full-time but are forced to work part-time.

The underemployment rate is 16.2%.

So 16.2 %don't have enough money and 9.1% have no money.Looks like 24.3% of americans have a pretty bleak future here.
0'You have a lot of kids graduating college, [who] can't find jobs," said Bloomberg, during his weekly radio show on Friday. "That's what happened in Cairo. That's what happened in Madrid. You don't want those kinds of riots here."I had a hard time finding work  myself in the mid 70's.
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I went to a giant garage sale here in st.Louis today.I bought a two burner gas grill from the 1930s for ten dollars.I plan to use homemade gas to burn in it.You really need to learn how to make your own fuel and learn how to grow your own food.I do plan to make an outdoor cooking area at my house.triffid