The big blue cell that I've painted with blue spray paint with 3 heavy coats of paint had me worried. I had a bad rain storm come through and the voltage went up and I feared the worse. I was worried that the cell was getting water from the air and this would be bad because this would make it galvanic. I've put it to the side for a couple days because I fear the cell was nothing now but I finally broke down and performed a simple test. I took a spray bottle and I spray the cell with water. To my surprise the cell voltage started going down the more i sprayed it with water but did stop at a certain point. I can't believe this, this has me more confused then when I started. If the cell went up in voltage than it would be galvanic, if the cell stayed the same than it would not be galvanic, but since it went down I don't know what to call it? Anti-galvanic maybe? This makes me upset because I'm more confused then when I started this whole test. So it wasn't the moisture in the air that caused the cell to increase it voltage when the bad rain/thunderstorm came through. So this just leaves barometric pressure and I have some ideas on how to test that.

Quote from: ibpointless2 on November 19, 2011, 11:10:13 PM
The big blue cell that I've painted with blue spray paint with 3 heavy coats of paint had me worried. I had a bad rain storm come through and the voltage went up and I feared the worse. I was worried that the cell was getting water from the air and this would be bad because this would make it galvanic. I've put it to the side for a couple days because I fear the cell was nothing now but I finally broke down and performed a simple test. I took a spray bottle and I spray the cell with water. To my surprise the cell voltage started going down the more i sprayed it with water but did stop at a certain point. I can't believe this, this has me more confused then when I started. If the cell went up in voltage than it would be galvanic, if the cell stayed the same than it would not be galvanic, but since it went down I don't know what to call it? Anti-galvanic maybe? This makes me upset because I'm more confused then when I started this whole test. So it wasn't the moisture in the air that caused the cell to increase it voltage when the bad rain/thunderstorm came through. So this just leaves barometric pressure and I have some ideas on how to test that.

Great Test IB... What you have there is the ability of the water to polarize to the units voltage potential and shield it from part of the fields these "batteries" utilize. Nothing confusing there IB. Just got to understand the abilities of water I guess.
Try looking up static rules when used with metals and you will see what the water is doing. Think of it like this one side or surface of the metal can be charged, the other side pulls the charge from it making it depleted or negative. Both potentials are equal but out of balance. Water reacts to static charges so it must be Conductive to it somewhat.


The voltage increase can from the environment being so highly charged. The environment changes in potential and so does your battery potentials accordingly.

I guess it is time for me to make an exciter field generator and do my own experiments on exposing these "batteries" to high potential fields. My take on this is that they are focusing channels for potentials based on the environmental potentials. If we can expose these devices to high potential fields we might be able to figure out the gain they provide...

Quote from: jbignes5 on November 20, 2011, 10:16:54 AM

I guess it is time for me to make an exciter field generator and do my own experiments on exposing these "batteries" to high potential fields. My take on this is that they are focusing channels for potentials based on the environmental potentials. If we can expose these devices to high potential fields we might be able to figure out the gain they provide...

I personally want to test them in low energy invironment potentials. I was thinking Nevada or Arizona at night miles away from any sort of man made energy field.

I think I may have stumbled across on how to make a crystal cell that uses the same metals. I'm getting a constant 400mV coming from using Aluminum wire for both electrodes. There is no magic involved in the process to dope the aluminum wire but it is on the dangerous side.


To dope the aluminum wire i took a cup of water and added Epsom salt and salt substitute to it and stuck my aluminum wire in the mix. I applied 12 volts for a couple of seconds and this created one wire that was dull and the other was extra shinny. This is not a new idea as most lead-acid batteries use this idea but what is interesting was that I could no matter how hard i try could get it to charge over 500mV. Maybe if i changed the size of the plates i could get higher voltages. After doping the metals I placed them in the glue mix and i'm allowing it to dry. Care must be taken when doping the aluminum wire as the salt substitute contains chloride and this could create chlorine gas when current is passed through the water.


It is very interesting that I can get a voltage from using the same metals in a cell.

   It seams like some guys have been able to electrolyze the aluminum in the salt solution, to leave an oxide layer which is the semiconductor? on the aluminum.   I think that might also work even when using regular table salt, which I do have.  Afterwards the test would be that the treated aluminum will not conduct electricity, and so that protects the metal from further oxidation.  The copper you heat red hot even on the kitchen stove, several times, and dip into water and all the black just comes right of in a second. I haven't got the borax, but I see that the copper turns the reddish shade, and not the black.  I'm ready to try it with a 3 inch long copper tube that I've already heat treated and prepared, as well as the aluminum wire, with the table salt electrolysis treatment. To see if there is any difference in my case, compared to my first hot dog cell, that has no semiconductor treatment.
 
   B_rads:  What the latest on those nice looking mg/copper semiconductor cells?