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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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jbignes5

 No it wont conduct regular electricity but it is a very good inductive radiator then. The crystals that form in the cell is the focus and the target is the center electrode that recieves the increased potential from the focusing. This is how I am seeing this operate. Water can be used in a cyclic way to recharge the battery but it has to be designed in that one component of water is the transporter. Since oxygen is a good ionizer I am thinking this is the culprit for the recycling methods that Bedini is trying to use. It's a good way to use a set amount of water in the battery as long as it can heal from damage.

b_rads

NickZ:
To be perfectly honest, I have not verified any performance increase by using the semi-conductor process on these cells.  Whether they will last longer than the untreated metals is yet to be seen.  The cells I made (stove top and glue) encased in liquid plastic are all still working, albeit at very low output levels.  Personally, I believe there is still a portion of the output being generated by galvanic action, but time will tell.  My water batteries that have been running for 14 months now show very little consumption of the zinc and if not for the inside steel rusting, it would be difficult to assess any corrosion.  For builders to say that after a few days or weeks that they see no corrosion might be more hope than reality.  Not trying to sound negative here, only attempting to keep my expectations low.  To match circuits with low output and long lasting cells have great value in my opinion.
I have a new variation of Ib’s cell that is showing some promise.  Remember Lidmotor’s cell using the water absorbing polymer gels.  Look at this stuff.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l2736&_nkw=Water+Absorbing+Polymer+Crystals+Gel+Soil+Moist
This is potassium based and I used a heated mix of Epsom Salt and Calcium Carbonate to saturate the crystals.  While this is galvanic, I am happy with the output as it will light LED’s and will have to see how long it runs.
Keep up the good work.  I keep my fingers crossed that something very positive will result in all the different methods being tried.   :)
Brad S

NickZ

   B_rads:
   Thanks Brad, just wanted to know if you were having any luck lately... I love the way your cells are lighting up that area of your house, all nice and neat...
   Semiconductor, or no semiconductor, that is my question...  So, before I go and buy a bunch of chemicals, salt, and dopings, etz, just want to make sure that it works, and is worth the effort.
Maybe Jim at EF might be having some luck, with his cells.
  I do feel that the big Mg/ copper cells like John lathed out are the way to go, but it's the mix that worries me a bit.  I want to steer away from water and salt, if possible. If you fill the Mg cups with Carbon, they would not need the semiconductor, as there is no water, air, or anything else. Which carbon to use is the question I still am working on. Look what just a thin pencil lead can output, almost 3 volts,  are first.  So, mass is not all, geometry must play a role, and resistance of the electrolytes, ion concentration and flow.
   I tried the electrolysis on the aluminum wire to see if I can get to to become a semiconductor, by using salt water solution, (table salt), but afterwards it still conducts electricity, which after the treatment it should not do.
   The copper is easy to treat with heat but the aluminum, is more involved, as it needs the chemicals and salts that I can't get.  I'm still not conviced as to the process, yet.
                                                                                                     NZ


ibpointless2

B_rads,


What is the voltage and amp readings on the stove top cell and glue cell that are in liquid plastic?


Thanks.

b_rads

Quote from: ibpointless2 on November 21, 2011, 05:42:08 PM
B_rads,


What is the voltage and amp readings on the stove top cell and glue cell that are in liquid plastic?


Thanks.
Ib:
I will check again this evening, but the cells, both glue and crystal hold right at 1.25V and 1-2 ma.  Since I am circuit poor and have too many cells, most of them sit shorted out.  When driving a circuit, if I load to heavy, a days rest will bring them right back.  One stove top cell has been under load for over 2 months and just will not die.  These are all copper and magnesium.  Encasing has made a big difference in my cells.  The cells that have not been encased do not hold up nearly as well.
Brad S