A while back the group at EF started talking about using depolorizers to increase current in their crystal cells.  This video shows some ongoing experiments of mine to help me understand this.  Hope you enjoy watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzarGi9orY0

Brad   

@jbignes5


so what you're trying to say is to make water have less oxygen? Also put a protective layer on the electrodes too? sounds like a good step in the right direction.




You also mention something about using oil in water? I've made a cell before where water sat at the bottom and oil sat on top of water. The oil was used to keep the water from evaporating, but the crazy part was that the water still evaporated at a very slow rate. Don't know how water can evaporate through oil but it did, but it took a really long time to do so. I think the oil was olive oil.

Quote from: b_rads on February 23, 2012, 11:13:03 AM
A while back the group at EF started talking about using depolorizers to increase current in their crystal cells.  This video shows some ongoing experiments of mine to help me understand this.  Hope you enjoy watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzarGi9orY0

Brad   

Really nice work, Glad to see the bio-plastic cells still going. I need to try to make a bio-plastic cell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcJGn4vGM&feature=related


lasersaber has done it already and should be comming out with a good how to to make the cell. He is of the same position that just the differential between the two metals is enough to the battery. Copper foil and magnesium in oil! the perfect capacitor and cell because of the metals we use. Once you get a flow of potential then the current will follow. Stabilizing the flow of potential is the problem here. But that is also a differ3ent approach as well. No water and no oxygen at all... Not even electrolysis can happen.... Hmmmm...


Do you remember about electrolytic caps recharging? Well now we know what was going on. The same metals were used in an electrolytic cap and that could be the reason they were so small of a recharge. Plus oil drastically increases the short tolerances of the cell per Tesla.

On the questions about water you want to get the water to have what it needs to hold the crystals together anything else will be squeezed out of the crystal by the crystal building process. Crystalline water has the bare essentials of oxygen. If you watch the video again about the water you showed you will see how this works. The boundry between oxidized water and non oxidized water is very clear. That is how the crystals grow and build. That layer where the crystalline water stops and the bulk water is should tell you all about the crystals abilities to build. Bulk water has impurities like the stuff the crystals matter is made out of. As soon as it settles and bonds the next layer of crystalline water forms and yet another layer is made. This happens all the time. Watch the video again...

So if you want the water to have very little oxygen then how do you go about it? Well why not use crystals that have the crystalline water in it already. Apply heat and let it reset and walla!

Also one way to perfectly seal something is to use heat to expand the oxygen and water in the device then cover it and allow it to cool. Very little oxygen or bulk water will be left and you will have a vacuum seal to boot. If it gets compromised then the seal would have been broken and no vacuum is left. This will let you know if the device has been unsealed.

I'm watching laser sabers video's to see if he completes the oil cells. That should be awesome. He is one bright individual like many here....

Quote from: ibpointless2 on February 23, 2012, 11:24:47 AM

Really nice work, Glad to see the bio-plastic cells still going. I need to try to make a bio-plastic cell.

Ib:
I have not explained to anyone yet why I am looking at different materials to build a solid electrolyte, so it is now time to lay out what I am trying to achieve.

Last year in an exchanging PM's with "MIKROVOLT" I promised that I would not post any results of my experiments on his thread and I intend to keep that promise to him.  I hope you guys do not mind my posting this information here.

Last summer I stumbled onto something that I thought was pretty cool.  When trying to replicate a different type battery, I found out that I could consume the electrolyte without harming the metal electrodes.  Think galvanizing, Zinc has a lower Electronegitivity than the metals it is trying to protect.  It is called a sacrificial coating.  I have found that potassium and calcium has a lower electronegitivity than magnesium.  Mixing either of those two materials with plain white glue and placed between the copper and magnesium causes the glue mix to be consumed.  The glue mix acts as a sacrificial coating to the Mg.  The problem is replacing the mix after it has been consumed since it was glued to the metals and the resistance is pretty high in the cell.  If the boiplastic works, replacing the electrolyte should be very simple.  Working on the resistance is another thing.

Thanks to this group for letting me get this on record.

Brad