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Overunity Machines Forum



Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 04, 2012, 01:47:01 AM
I claim NOTHING related to the NERD circuit.  We have presented two papers that need expert evaluation and those papers only POINT AT QUESTIONS. We are asking those questions.  And there is no mere mortal who will EVER know the truth in any absolute sense.

Regards
Rosie Pose

It's nice to see that you've changed your mind and withdrawn your claims related to the NERD circuit.


TinselKoala

Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 01:58:17 AM
TK,

I've watched those guys doing work on HT lines close to here.  Not for me!

You do hae a t'stat in the Cav don't you?

PW

Of course, and it's only about six months old, I changed it last summer when trying to fix the overheating problem then. It's doing its thing, opening when it should, and the gauge temp sender and fan thermo switch are both on the block itself not the radiator. When it gets cold outside and the heater doesn't work... then I'll change back to 50-50 glycol without the wetting agent and stuff some cardboard over half the radiator....
;)

happyfunball

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 04, 2012, 01:47:01 AM
I claim NOTHING related to the NERD circuit.  We have presented two papers that need expert evaluation and those papers only POINT AT QUESTIONS. We are asking those questions.  And there is no mere mortal who will EVER know the truth in any absolute sense.

Regards
Rosie Pose

So you present papers on something which you know nothing about? Wild.

If you know nothing about it, why would you have any objection to the actual testing going on here, or call it 'spin?' Nonsensical to say the least.

TinselKoala

You just have to laugh. We've gone from the claim of COP > INFINITY all the way down to "I claim NOTHING".

By my calculations that is an infinite reduction in the magnitude of the overunity claim originally made by this claimant.

So... what is the big deal? If Ainslie no longer is claiming anything but a few measurements that anyone can reproduce with a handful of mosfets and an oscilloscope.... and is no longer claiming the various prizes..... where's the beef? Let her go away and hide under a rock, then.

Rosemary Ainslie

And with regard to this post.
Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 01:11:00 AM
There is no applied voltage at the gate of Q2 from the FG.  Again, more of your your words put into the mouths of others.
I have stated this PUBLICLY - right here on this forum.  WE PUT THE PROBE OF THE FUNCTION GENERATOR DIRECTLY ON THE GATE OF Q1.  WE PUT THE TERMINAL OF THAT PROBE DIRECTLY ON THE GATE AT Q2.  When the probe voltage applies a positive voltage at Q1 then the voltage at Q2 is in anti polarity.  There most CERTAINLY is an applied voltage at the gate of Q2.  And Q1.  ALWAYS. They're in anti phase or anti polarity. 
Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 01:11:00 AMThe gate of Q2 is always at or very near ground potential.
It is NOT.
Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 01:11:00 AMIf the CSR were temporarily replaced by a wire, then the gate of Q2 would ALWAYS be EXACTLY at ground potential, which is the negative terminal of the battery.
Not sure what you mean to achieve by taking out the CSR. It makes no difference either way.   Q1 voltage is precisely in anti phase to Q2 polarity  whichever way the function generator has applied that voltage.
Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 01:11:00 AMWhen the FG output is negative, the FG makes the voltage at the source terminal of Q2 negative with respect to ground to which the Q2 gate is connected. 
This is IMPOSSIBLE.  We apply that terminal directly to the Gate at Q2.  If the Gate at Q1 is negative - then correspondingly the Gate at Q2 is positive. 
Quote from: picowatt on May 04, 2012, 01:11:00 AMPulling the source of Q2 negative with respect to its gate turns on Q2.
Q2 is turned on by the positive signal applied DIRECTLY to that gate.  The Q2 source leg is NOT negative during this phase of the switching cycle.  It is POSITIVE. Besides which,  Q2's source leg is NOWHERE connected to the negative rail of the battery supply source.  (And MileHigh - IF you don't like that term - you'll need to live with it.  It's entirely acceptable terminology.) Effectively it FLOATS.  One would hope that you'd be dealing with the actual circuit and not some idea that you may have of its configuration.