Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 07, 2012, 02:59:00 AM
My dear Leon,

You have a function generator in series with a regulated power supply.  You have a capacitor in parallel to the that regulated power supply. You then DISCONNECT the regulated power supply.  The only other POSSIBLE source of energy is from the function generator.  IF the function generator was supplying energy to the circuit then it would REPLENISH the cap and the cap would NOT discharge.  Since the oscillations DESIST then there is self-evidently NO CURRENT FLOW from the function generator.

Rosie Pose.

Look carefully.  THERE IS NO FUNCTION GENERATOR IN THAT VIDEO.
NONE.
NONE WHATSOEVER.
NO FUNCTION GENERATOR IS HOOKED UP ANYWHERE IN THAT CIRCUIT AT ALL.

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You have a function generator in series with a regulated power supply. 

NO I DO NOT. THERE IS NO FUNCTION GENERATOR USED ANYWHERE IN THAT VIDEO.

What is the matter with you?

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 07, 2012, 03:10:10 AM
Look carefully.  THERE IS NO FUNCTION GENERATOR IN THAT VIDEO.
NONE.
NONE WHATSOEVER.
NO FUNCTION GENERATOR IS HOOKED UP ANYWHERE IN THAT CIRCUIT AT ALL.NO I DO NOT. THERE IS NO FUNCTION GENERATOR USED ANYWHERE IN THAT VIDEO.

What is the matter with you?

If the schematic you posted is NOT what you have demonstrated then - TYPICALLY - you have omitted a schematic. 

You need to give us your schematic.  Your circuits are simply a MESS of wires.

Rosie Pose

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 07, 2012, 03:01:29 AM
Yes, I got that, and I thought it would be an excellent opportunity to explain again, but clearly the concepts are too abstract for YKW.

Putting another battery  in the string is essentially what happens when I use any external bias source. The 9volt battery for example. The Bias source is only separated from being in strict series with the main battery's negative pole by the 0.25 ohm CVR... which is negligible compared to the equivalent series resistance of the battery itself, I should think. So really, any negative bias source acts as if it were another battery in the string, attached with its positive pole to the main battery's negative pole. (Through that quarter-ohm of course.)
But that's too easy and it would seem that the extra bias battery has no way at all of experiencing the "ainslie effect" so that it stays charged up. That's why we would like to run strictly on the main batteries alone, if we are to have any hope of powering our black Buick's inertialess drive with the Ainslie effect. Can't have batteries going dead in the middle of a suppression operation, now can we.

But I'll probably wind up doing it just as you say. I like using 2n2222as in the little metal cans, they are so "transistor" like. Or even 2n7000 mosfets, I have a handful of them, but they don't look as cool as the 2n2222as.

Always loved a pretty TO39 myself.  Maybe connect a pair of your inverters with diodes for more current.

PW

Here is the post from PAGES BACK where I first posted the diagram explaining the capacitor test. The points marked FG+ and FG- ARE THE POINTS ON THE CIRCUIT WHERE THE FG NORMALLY CONNECTS. I refer to these points this way... to avoid confusion... and everyone except AINSLIE seems to understand this.

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 06, 2012, 06:32:47 PM
You said it, Fuzzy. She's up to her scraggly braids in contradictions and mendacity.

Let her have her own moderated thread with her as mod. I'd love to see it. It will be a hoot and a half _at least_.


Meanwhile, back in the DeepBunker...

As you all know I've been using a potentiometer/series resistor to interface whatever negative bias supply I'm using to the Tar Baby's FG+ and FG- connection points. Well... the cheap 1 megohm pot that I have been using is fried anyway and has to be turned all the way to the stop. So I've improved that system and unless otherwise noted I'll be using the pot/resistor scheme shown in the diagram below. It gives good adjustment with a supply of 6-9 volts. The CAPACITOR shown is what I used for my latest test video -- an unscheduled test, but we managed to fit it in anyway --, showing Tar Baby running on the capactor for its bias source... for a few seconds anyway. Clearly, though, the capacitor IS putting energy into the circuit and IS NOT being in any sense recharged or prevented from putting its power into the circuit.

This video is being processed and uploaded now. It should be available in half an hour or so. Meanwhile here's the schematic for the new potentiometer arrangement. The CAP is only there for this demo and whatever power source you like can be substituted for the Elenco precision regulated PS.

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 07, 2012, 03:14:54 AM
If the schematic you posted is NOT what you have demonstrated then - TYPICALLY - you have omitted a schematic. 

You need to give us your schematic.  Your circuits are simply a MESS of wires.

Rosie Pose

YOU LIAR.  MY SCHEMATICS ARE KNOWN AND POSTED EXACTLY.

YOURS ARE NOT. I can link at least FOUR different schematics from your CURRENT POSTS that at one time or another you have claimed to use. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO READ a schematic, you liar.