Quote from: Groundloop on May 10, 2012, 05:16:21 AM
TK,

I wrote wrong. I meant +12 volt positive bias on the gate to fully turn on the mosfet.

GL.

I knew that you did.

LOL Guys,

This is the CLOSEST that TK will ever get to an admission of error.  This from that 'CRUEL little man' who thinks he's disturbing my emotional or mental equilibrium.   If I've said it once - it can bear repetition.  TK - it is my opinion that you are a sad sorry little man with delusions of effectiveness that are disconcertingly amusing.

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 10, 2012, 04:48:44 AM
In the case we have been TRYING to discuss, the Q1 mosfet is not turned fully on. It is getting only about 5 volts to its gate and everybody agrees that the current during the ON part of the duty cycle is about 320 mA in the _particular case_ that we have been discussing, which is the scopeshot included in Ainslie's blog post number 117. Note the description of the data and the technique. Are we sure of ANYTHING that Ainslie reports?

ALL of Ainslie's rants having to do with her mistaken conceptions of power are based on her HALLUCINATION that I ever said or claimed that the full 20 Watts that is the instantaneous power conveyed by that current is dissipated at the load. In fact, when this first STARTED I explicitly calculated the I^2R power dissipation at the 11.1 ohm load corresponding to 320 mA. And I also commented that the duty cycle was reducing this in the average. Yet Ainslie prefers to lie about what I actually am saying and she argues with the words she PREFERS that I would have said: a hallucination, since I said no such thing and in fact, many times when this typical Ainslie behaviour occurs, have said just the opposite.

And my dear Leon. I do NOT RANT.  I leave that to the likes of you.  And - from memory - which admittedly in my dotage is sorely taxed - I seem to remember that you rather RELIED on that computation of 20 watts.  LOL.  This is hysterical.

Guys, TK - the sweet thing that he is - is trying to pretend that he NEVER claimed to have measured 20 watts instantaneous current flow.  Presumably therefore - neither did picowatt.  And then - Guys - I'm afraid we've ALL been hallucinating.  And a quick reference to previous posts seems to indicate that those ruddy posts are ALSO hallucinating.  It's RIFE and it's CONTAGIOUS.  The Tar Baby is spreading delusions like confetti.

Yes TK.  You most certainly and somewhat unequivocally claimed that we were showing 20 watts delivered by that battery supply which you seemed to think would be sufficient to heat our element resistor to 200 degrees centigrade.  And you were essentially somewhat COMBATIVE in these your claims.  And it is REALLY amusing that you're now denying this.

Rosie Pose.

Groundloop - just to caution you.  IF you apply a continual positive to the Gate of Q1 then you will ONLY get a DC outflow.  Do you really mean that?  And does TK REALLY expect you to do that?  I'm not sure why you'd want to prove this.  It has no bearing on the issue.  But far be it from me to interfere with your test objects.

Quote from: Groundloop on May 10, 2012, 05:16:21 AM
TK,

I wrote wrong. I meant +12 volt positive bias on the gate to fully turn on the mosfet.

GL.

Regards as ever,
Rosie

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 10, 2012, 05:34:40 AM
LOL Guys,

This is the CLOSEST that TK will ever get to an admission of error.  This from that 'CRUEL little man' who thinks he's disturbing my emotional or mental equilibrium.   If I've said it once - it can bear repetition.  TK - it is my opinion that you are a sad sorry little man with delusions of effectiveness that are disconcertingly amusing.
And my dear Leon. I do NOT RANT.  I leave that to the likes of you.  And - from memory - which admittedly in my dotage is sorely taxed - I seem to remember that you rather RELIED on that computation of 20 watts.  LOL.  This is hysterical.

Guys, TK - the sweet thing that he is - is trying to pretend that he NEVER claimed to have measured 20 watts instantaneous current flow. 

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE POLLY PARROT LIES AGAIN ho hohooo you are so silly and transparent.

QuotePresumably therefore - neither did picowatt.  And then - Guys - I'm afraid we've ALL been hallucinating.  And a quick reference to previous posts seems to indicate that those ruddy posts are ALSO hallucinating.  It's RIFE and it's CONTAGIOUS.  The Tar Baby is spreading delusions like confetti.

Yes TK.  You most certainly and somewhat unequivocally claimed that we were showing 20 watts delivered by that battery supply which you seemed to think would be sufficient to heat our element resistor to 200 degrees centigrade.  And you were essentially somewhat COMBATIVE in these your claims.  And it is REALLY amusing that you're now denying this.

Linky please... you cannot support your contention here with a citation or a quote, because once again you are referring to your own hallucination. 320 mA times 62 volts is what again? YES, I do unequivocally "claim" or rather calculate from your data that the instantaneous power during the ON state is 20 Watts, roughly. And WHERE did I say it was dissipated?  And do I believe that you obtained that temperature under the conditions of that scope trace? No, I do not, and in fact I deny that it is even possible, much less have I ever claimed that it was "sufficient", you hallucinating liar you.

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Polly Parrot.

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on May 10, 2012, 05:39:30 AM
Groundloop - just to caution you.  IF you apply a continual positive to the Gate of Q1 then you will ONLY get a DC outflow.  Do you really mean that?  And does TK REALLY expect you to do that?  I'm not sure why you'd want to prove this.  It has no bearing on the issue.  But far be it from me to interfere with your test objects.
Regards as ever,
Rosie

NO, Polly Parrot, I expect him to refute the claims you make about this scope shot, where a +12 volt positive voltage is applied to the Gate of Q1..... FOR 16 SECONDS AT A TIME..... and yet NO CURRENT FLOWS.

I know of several ways to replicate the behaviour shown in the scope shot. None of them involve applying +12 volts to the gate of a properly connected, properly functioning mosfet.