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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

I do not mean this rudley - but ask questions individually and not in a long list,
and please - not ones that have not already been answered by me or by the critics.

If you do not like the answer - asking again does not mean I am going to change them to fit into your parameters.

It was expalined to me the Heroic work done to uncover a fraud, and you have referanced that several times.

I am glad people were protected - my approach was to be completley open and honest to those who honored us enough to come and investigsate - last year when I released my work on this site.

That was a long and year ago, we have been reviewed.

What you look for now - that moment of discovery like where  "insisted that Romero showed the output voltage from the FWBR" is long past.

We have been vetted, it was for our benifit - not yours - and one of the vetters - has spoken five times on the hope he has for our mechanical free energy and what it means to the world.

The only sin we have committed was denying this site the hero moment - well - it won't happen - because - we have been speaking the truth - period.

I said before:

We have been busting it to get our system converted to a Data collection model to "Verify and confirm the engineering models and expectations" and to "Provide the Data for the Scientific team preparing for our white sheets and journals."

I do not expect to even ask for an "investors" - without due dilligense - who would expect an investor to support an unsubstantiated claim - I do not. What investor is going to go to this site or any other to get approval?

Since The Travis effect made the first sustainable free energy machine possible - or at least at the moment:

Let me share with you the process and efforts required - notice that getting approval for an overuntiy web site is missing.

Let me share the process again: - no skipping, no cheating, all due dilligenses have to be done - (remember this when you say things like "if he had something - he would be running his house off of it" - those that call that logic - don't really have any experiance)

Genisis (Travis Effect) Years to discover.
Eureka (how the Travis effect works - according to physics)
Design (turn the discovery into a machine on paper)
Research and Develop system (engineering and certification)
Build working Input /out put system (table top simple system)
Build operational system (perpetual motion)
Feasibility (build Closed looped system)
Build Data collection model (scientific review and verification)
(We are here)
Alpha Model (scale ablility to demonstrate range of anomoly)
Beta Models (durability and sustainability)
Production models, manuals, expertise, and so on.

(all of this is very expensive - so the next time you bash an inventor for needing funding - think a little omg)

In closing:
We have a solid team of professionals - you have been reminded of that.
Some of them have spoken here, and you ignored them.

I understand you want to analyze the system - but you are too late, should have helped last year when I asked.

I tried hard to tell this web site my success last year - and I left politely.

I promised Stefan to return when we were beyound that level of ....bunk.

I have been insulted for my faith, my engineering, called a fraud, had improper drawings labled "Hydroenergy fallacy" accused of being greedy, accused of many things.

I pray that "the good intentions", meant to protect others from fraud - will be matured.

Opinons and slanders have nothing to do with good investigation - stick with the facts.

Ask facts - not slime laden comments with preassumed conclusions in the wording, and posistions of denial.

The fact is, you were all given private access to a real Overunity Machine..some of you got it, well done.

Good night. 

LarryC

@Wayne - great discovery.

Since there is much dissention here, hope you don't mind, but I've added some notes to your drawing to hopefully help clear up some of the issues.

This explanation assumes that there is 1 Ft of water above the cylinder tops, thus they can only move up 1 Ft with 185 pounds of force. The Travis insert is 2 Ft in length. It is in a precharge state, but after lift as shown in the bottom picture, the air is at the bottom of the Simple Travis Effect will be at the top and Travis insert bottom will be even with the bottom of the lift cylinder.

The notes I added show that Simple Archimedes required that 1 Cu Ft of air be forced down a total of 9 Ft (2 + 3 + 4)  in water.
Simple Travis effect required that 1 Cu Ft of air be forced down 4 Ft in water.
Travis effect only requires .44 of the total force that Archimedes does but has the same lift. Also, the Travis side when using the same PSI, would pressures with air in less time then the Archimedes side, important as Horsepower is directly releated to time.

This is a good start, but it can be improved by increasing the Travis insert length to 2 1/2 feet. Now it only requires that .5 Cu Ft of air be forced down 4 Ft. So now, the Travis effect only requires .22 of the total force that Archimedes does, but still has the same lift.

The challenge now is that it can only move up 6 inches.

But by correctly adding another Travis Effect layer the lift height would go back to 1 Ft as each would lift 6 inches, but now with 370 pounds of lift.

If it was further adjusted so that the lift height of each is 3 inches, it would require 4 layers to lift 1 Ft with 740 pounds of lift. The Travis effect now only requires .11 of the total force required by Archimedes.
The other upside to multiple layers is that it make his buoyancy machine incredibly fast to pressurize and unpressurize while providing an ever greater lift.

This is with 144 square inches surface area, his current at 707 square inches is a monster.

Bottom line: It would help greatly, if more here would just try to understand the unlimited potential of the Travis effect and less on the working of the current system. None of us here, can hope to equal the combined engineering capabilities of the current team.

Regards,
Larry 

mrwayne

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 03, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
Sorry, but it looks like a big electric motor and a hydraulic pump to me, too.
Hello Tinsel,
It is just a very poorly matched Hydraulic motor turning a windy nation generator yes - slowly
We have enough excess to use it -mismatched -for our data collection - yes - major losses.

"And there is more than thirty watts just in the _audio_ output power of that
groaning monster!!"

That is so smart lol - I did not think of that! - actually the sound was turned way up..

"MileHigh's point about the compressed air is also very important."
A little bit misleading - we do not have to add water or air a second time - as I have said - stop or start as many times a s you like - run as long as you like -unless you drain the system for repair or leak.
Air input is like this:
1/2 cf 2 psi
1/2 cf 4 psi
1/2 cf 6 psi
Thats it, once per side - never more.
No one swims in an empty pool - well - we do not have buoyancy without water and air.
Thanks Wayne

TinselKoala

@mrwaye: Thanks for your prompt answer! Yes, nobody swims in an empty pool, that's for sure, and thanks for clearing up the point about the compressed air. A single charge that isn't depleted is OK with me, certainly !

I wish you luck and I await a full explanation of the workings. I admit that the explanations given so far don't make a lot of sense to me yet. I'm glad to see Mondrasek lending his analytic skills to the thread.

Can you point out, in the photos on the website slideshow, just where the power pistons are that convert the motion to hydraulic pressure? Are they the horizontal double-acting cylinders at the bottom of the big trusswork?

mrwayne

No, they are the ones up top of the ZED tanks, in the outside video - they are white (single rod)
And on the inside system - they are the Grey and black ones (double rod).
Very simple conversion of Lateral force into Hydraulic fluid under pressure.
Thanks Wayne