Quote from: mrwayne on June 08, 2012, 12:18:20 PM
I have been asked for support and permission to have the demo model build, I am keen on the idea.

So your team will build one?

@Neptune & Mondrasek:[/size]
Thank you for your discussion. It is productive and helpful.


@Wayne: First and foremost, a demo model is imperative and highly instructive. 


@Neptune:
Re: your problem with enlarging the text of the patent.
Download the patent, copy & paste to Text Edit, or Word, or whatever program you have for document creation. Then you can enlarge the font as much as you like.

Quote from: mondrasek on June 08, 2012, 11:48:38 AM
@neptune,

Except for the cost involved, I'd be building a table top version out of acrylic myself!  I was thinking different transparent tints of acrylic for the different moving members.  But I had not thought of tinting the water.

I was thinking of asking CLaNZeR or TinselKoala.  But the cost is too much to ask IMHO.  CLaNZeR might want to take a stab at it anyway regardless of expense (he is like that).  But both CLaNZeR and TK have interests mainly in magnetics and elctromagnetics respectively.

The patent and my own limited understanding of the device suggest that sizing of each member is important to achieve OU let alone to optimize the design.  So we would need a builder or team that could support "the numbers" as well.  But maybe Mr. Wayne's team already has such a teaching unit in mind?

M.

I`d love to see a working model built like this!

Thanks for the suggestions from everyone about enlarging the patent.@Mrwayne, I did not fully understand your last post. Are you saying that you would like to build a model, or are you encouraging us to do so. In the light of your experience, do you think it is feasible to build a simple model along the lines I have suggested, with just one group of nesting chambers, and a crank replacing the hydraulics? As you have a patent, you have nothing to loose, and probably much to gain in terms of publicity , by helping us. All we are seeking is to educate ourselves and the public, not trying to profit from your invention, which would of course be illegal and unethical.
       Regarding the numbers game, my gut feeling would be, that the concentric cylinders would need to be sized so that the spaces, or volume between them would all be equal.
        I would like opinions on sizing, that is , would it be more difficult to make a small model OU than a big one ?
         Another thought . For a given size, based on gut feeling, using a liquid with a density higher than water would probably give a higher COP.The problem might be finding such a liquid, after all , all oils are less dense than water




Such a self acting model , if feasible , would help not only to sell this idea, but wake up the world to the reality of alternatives. Perpetual motion machine on your desk, anyone?


Also I disagree that such a machine would need a lot of money to build. Lots of time, yes . (0% of it could be built from junk.

Quote from: neptune on June 08, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
         Another thought . For a given size, based on gut feeling, using a liquid with a density higher than water would probably give a higher COP.The problem might be finding such a liquid, after all , all oils are less dense than water

Denser than water and still clear:  Glycerin?