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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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Lakes

Wayne, is Mark still scheduled for the 28th?

Maybe a live video feed from Ustream?? :)

mrwayne

You People impress me,
My Patent attorney told me that few people could - or would wrap their heads around a system (like ours) that had so many naturally correlating effects within the system - you are doing well!
On that note: does it amaze you yet on how much is going on in basically a single moving part (when they are attached together).
Now for a big jump in your computations - I know some of you are working ahead - so.......
Consider the Weight - I told you it was to keep the air compressed - the heads in place (partially) and to control the sink rate of the system .... right -

Two More reasons for the weight:
First - as you have noticed - the effeciency of the system is best at "ideal" in most systems to get to ideal requires going from 0- ideal and back again = over and over -
The weights let us skip past the first 55% of the system and function only in the begining of the "super effecient range".
The weight would seem to some to be a waste of energy - or a simple teeter taughter effect - which it is (in that normal relm of physics - but to be able to cancel out the need to go from 0 - ideal - and instead operate at 55% of ideal too ideal only is good, very good.
We do not get to "eliminate" the need for the weight - but we do not pay for that part of the process over and over .
That was hard for my engineers - they wanted to squeeze everything out of the system - which means - you have to put it all back in - poor logic with a free energy machine - net Zero. They insisted on light weigting the risers - I argued - it cost us nothing if they are equal on both sides - they argued "Ideal usage" I argued - pay for everything - results in nothing.....

Part two:
The weight and mininum pressure effect:
As in our last model - we have enough weight to keep the pressure at 5.0 psi hydro - this means that if we had chosen to place our pump at the bottom of the system - we would have to overcome the 5.0 and then charge it to 8.0 in order to stroke - but we do not do that - we raised our pump to an elevation equal to that head/psi and so - when we push our water into the pod - the pump has a resistance of - well 0-3 psi - which is much better than 5-8 psi.
Three pounds is not three pounds - Some one will jump on me for that - but to let you all work it out - I will just say - that you can raise the water level in a column from any point - it is harder the lower you go - just in the friction of a seal ---
To be fair - the weight eliminates the input cost of 5.0psi - and reduces the ideal use of the system (please recall that fully utilizing the ideal results in under unity.
Raising the pump eliminates the stress of the exchange - that stress is what tore our model seven apart - during long runs.
- when you get done with this part - let me know - and I will explain the inverted pump system - 20% reduction in pumping cost -(real good).
Got to go
Again - very impressive teamwork.
Wayne Travis

mrwayne

Quote from: Lakes on June 24, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
Wayne, is Mark still scheduled for the 28th?

Maybe a live video feed from Ustream?? :)

I spoke to Mark two days ago - he is ready now - we worked out a game plan - now that we have our Debree clogging checkvalves open issue put to bed -(PLEASE OH PLEASE - paper towel pieces were introduced to the system in the plumbing upgrades - major pain).
We will run our pre test runs starting Monday - after we are sure we do not have new clogs - I call Mark and he will come - the 28 is still our goal.
He has been very patient, and our birthing issues only fuel negativty - fortunaltely The Z.E.D portion of the machine is very resiliant - continues to function without issue.
After his check - the next team gets scheduled.
Wayne

mrwayne

A question was asked about a weight selection calculator -
We do have that in our system - We are not releasing that work without NDA.
Our Model allow us to state the required output "Net"  such as "50kw" and it will find all of the size hieght, width, layers, and weight that will match that output. Then we chose which to select - based on several factors - shipping manufacturing, location etcetera.
The model takes into considerations about 3000times (rough guess) - the information you have uncovered so far.
We have spent four years - not struggling - but in careful understanding.
Concerning your models at this stage, I suggested 1/3 of the ideal of the system - since you have discussed small systems - if your system calculates to lift 600 pounds (at the end of your stroke).
- add the weight of the risers and then add enough weight to reach about 200 pounds.
You will discover that the exhuast pressure created by 200 pounds is over half the energy required to lift 600 pounds.
Some of you may have noticed that we have 5.0 psi in our system from 2500 pounds of weight - and we only add 3psi to get to 8 psi to lift 5500 pounds (which is our operating lift).
So my suggestion - fill out the NDA meet our engineers that have busted it for years to come to a complete and predictive model....
Or, just add a weight to increase your exhuast above half the operting pressure.
We are fortuntate to have a large o/u operating range, this will get you in the good.
Thanks Wayne

neptune

@mrwayne.Many thanks for the new information that you have given us. It will take a while to digest, but I feel I am learning all the time.As always, what at first seems to be a very simple device gives us lots to think about. I would say that 80% of people who drive vehicles, do not understand how an engine works. An engine has far more moving parts than a ZED. And yet it is very easy to understand by comparison. As I have long suspected, the best efficiency is all about dimensions and proportions. I think it was Stevenson, a pioneer of railway locomotives, who said that any fool can design something complicated.But to make it simple needs a genius. Look at the long history of this forum. We have sought OU in electronics, in coils , capacitors, and pyramids, to name a few.How ironic for OU to show itself in a device that could probably have been built by the Ancient Romans.


Wayne talks about "raising the pump" or injecting water not at the base of a water column, but at a point higher up. In a ZED we cannot inject water into the side wall of the inner chamber, there are things in the way. So I assume Wayne means that water is injected via a pipe through the base of the chamber which projects upwards to the required point. More later when I have studied more .