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Overunity Machines Forum



Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

MILEHIGH! You're there.  I was rather fearful that you'd fallen asleep at the wheel - so to speak.  Or drifted off into the upper stratosphere with no thought for us mere mortals.  Nice to see you around.

Quote from: MileHigh on June 28, 2012, 11:33:37 PM

Stop acting in sch a belligerent fashion.  You are right that there is nothing new.  At the same time you are fully aware of what all of the holes are.  "Brute force by force of will," and being in denial of all of the facts, will NOT get you to your final goal.  It's just ridiculous.

You've ENTIRELY misunderstood me if you think my posts are belligerent.  On the contrary.  I'm giving credit where credit is due.  As is my wont.

Rosie Posie
:-* :)

Magluvin

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on June 28, 2012, 11:23:04 PM


Nice fireworks you've got there by the way (BTW).  But I wonder perhaps if you're drifting off topic a bit.  Are you DESPERATELY trying to distract all and sundry from the real motive in this excuse for a thread?  if so, you're doing good. I'm only sorry I can't see those videos of yours.

Meanwhile my dear little TinselKoala - you need to show us the measured results of battery draw down tests - using RECHARGEABLE batteries - and I would strongly recommend that you stay on topic - or start another thread if you want to show us you can copy Tesla's genius and call it your own.  You can call it 'A ONE MAN VANITY FAIR'  or 'IN SEARCH OF THE WEAK MINDED'.  Something like that.

Kindest as always
Rosie Pose
aka Little Miss Mosfet

See, this is another problem you have. Either you dont read all the posts accurately(maybe a bit of a speed reader with a loss for critical details), or you are creating drama. The fireworks device is being driven with a circuit that emulates your circuit. Its an interesting example.

As for the rechargeable batteries, in your case, why the need for recharging, if the batteries are never depleted?  ;) Thats just silly talk.

I dont know of a battery that cant be recharged, unless it has been taken beyond return. As in damaged by remaining at too low of a voltage level for too long. Even rechargeable lithium if taken below a certain voltage level will damage the battery.

A car starting battery is rechargeable, but shouldnt be deep cycled. A Duracel AAA, AA, C, D cell can be charged. But the casing is not designed to handle the internal pressures  from heat developed over a normal charge time. Charger circuits for supposed non rechargeable batteries have been around for a long time.  There used to be a consumer charger of the kind back in the days.

Either way. If the circuit doesnt deplete the battery, then rechargeable batteries are not needed.  :o ;) Just one hole.

Mags

Rosemary Ainslie

Hi Magsy,

Quote from: Magluvin on June 28, 2012, 11:45:51 PM
See, this is another problem you have. Either you dont read all the posts accurately(maybe a bit of a speed reader with a loss for critical details), or you are creating drama. The fireworks device is being driven with a circuit that emulates your circuit. Its an interesting example.
Again.  Not actually.  I don't 'speed read'.  I wish I could.  I am NOT trying to create drama.  On the contrary - I'm trying to diffuse the drama that our little TK manages.  He is TRULY the quintessential DRAMA QUEEN. And the fireworks have NOTHING to do with our circuit.  ON the CONTRARY.  We go to some considerable lengths to both make and prove that our circuits are efficient.

It's interesting stuff regarding your 'recharging' the 'non-rechargeable'.  If this is right then you should start a thread on this and teach us all.  Frankly if this is right then we all should be made more aware of this Magsy.  And regarding this as an example of a 'hole' as you phrase it - you're wrong.  TK categorically states that there's NO recharge value in that eccentric oscillation of ours.

Kindest as ever Magsy - and still waiting for that learned dissertation related to the multiple 'holes' in our circuit - which you claim.

Rosie Pose
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Emphasis on our Little TK's natural talents
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Actually being a drama QUEEN is probably his ONLY talent. 
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In fact it is my humble opinion that our Little TK's TRUE GENIUS is in his tantrums.  Quite sweet in a way.  But very feminine come to think of it.
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Perhaps that's why he sports his little moustache.  I LOVE moustaches.

Magluvin

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on June 28, 2012, 11:26:33 PM
Not actually Magsy.  These last few pages have been devoted to 'spin' and to TK's rather boring efforts at congratulating himself.  It's all a bit monotonous.  I'm looking for those 'holes' EVERYWHERE.  Help me out.

Rosie Pose

Lets see, 2 pages back, which in my experience , a few equals more than a couple(2)

Pico's post...

That a function generator can't pass, sink, or source current?

That a 'scope must be AC coupled to read the FG levels properly?

That +12 volts is not being applied to the gate of Q1 in FIG3?

That an indicated negative mean power measurement means a circuit is COP=infinity?

That your batteries never run down?

That you have discovered a new phenomenon akin to room temperature superconductivity?

Just what is it you are claiming?  I don't think anyone really knows any more...



Then on the same page, a "few" posts below, Kitty quotes you as saying....

"No.  No MOSFET - least of all an IRFPG50 is DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A DEGREE OF AVALANCHING.  Golly.  Whatever next?  Avalanching is the undesirable product of paralleled transistors.  And that applies to them all.  "

You clearly dont read the data sheets.

So just that one detail about the "Avalanching", we can see you are arguing something you clearly dont have any idea about. But if you had read the data sheet, you would. That is, even if the "Avalanching" were a criteria that you were interested in in the first place, even just along the way, then I would not be posting these words at this moment. But I am.

Even though I did repost some of what you requested, after saying that I wouldnt, I have a feeling that your response will be nill on the subject. Where as TK's fireworks are on topic, as you should know if you had followed thoroughly.  But it appears you are not.

Mags

Rosemary Ainslie

Thanks for the effort Magsy.  Much appreciated. 

Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AM
Lets see, 2 pages back, which in my experience , a few equals more than a couple(2)
Pico's post...
That a function generator can't pass, sink, or source current?
This has been answered.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AM
That a 'scope must be AC coupled to read the FG levels properly?
This has been answered.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AMThat +12 volts is not being applied to the gate of Q1 in FIG3?
Quite right.  12 volts is NOT being applied.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AMThat an indicated negative mean power measurement means a circuit is COP=infinity?
Quite right.  COP=INFINITY IS measured by TK on his excuse of a circuit.  And by us on our circuit.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AMThat your batteries never run down?
Never claimed this.  On the contrary.  We've still to test this.  DON'T you READ my posts Magsy?  Or are you speed reading?  You need to SLOW DOWN.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AMThat you have discovered a new phenomenon akin to room temperature superconductivity?
Quite right.  We've got a continual current flow at room temperature that measures NO discharge from the battery.  Very odd.  Thanks for reminding us all on this point.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 29, 2012, 12:06:18 AMJust what is it you are claiming?  I don't think anyone really knows any more...
Essentially we're asking some BOFFINS and EXPERTS (which sadly precludes comment from picowatt and little TK) to explain how standard measurement protocols are applied to a circuit that results in a negative wattage.  You see Magsy - there is NO SUCH THING.  NO SUCH ANIMAL AS  A NEGATIVE WATTAGE.  So.  IF we're measuring this wrongly - THEN WHERE ARE THOSE ERRORS.  It's the kind of question that only people like Poynty or Groundloop or our academic BOFFINS can answer.  TK is sadly disadvantaged by NOT having the required know how and wherewith all to comment.  And for reasons best understood by ONLY TK - he QUITE SIMPLY NEVER STOPS.  It's EXTRAORDINARY.

Rosie Pose