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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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avalon

Quote from: jiga on May 16, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
Hi Guys!

Im new in this forum. First of all sorry for moving your focus away from your very interesting works.  And also sorry for my bad english.

Does anybody made a replication of RomeroUK's engine? I've read a lot of posts for the TT Pyramid and spent hours there, and in last pages of the topic I discovered very disappointed that it was a fraud, as no one could replicate it working and Trawoger disappeared.

So I'm a bit more skeptic now! (Skeptic in the good sense, I'm still open minded, but I have to prove it because there are lots of disinformers) I read first pages of this topic, and it looks very interesting, but I really have no time for reading all 300+ pages. So this started 01/01/2008, after 4 years did anybody could replicate it?

Thanks a lot!!!

Greetings!
Juan from Argentina.

The reason as to why no one has been able to replicate the Romero's setup is very simple. Romero's setup was a fake and he admitted it himself. Nevertheless, I still believe that Bill Muller's setup is a useful design which can be adapted to other projects.

thevoice4you

Hi all can anybody here PLEASE tell me their take on my project ''MULLER & COMPRESSED AIR SYSTEM'' ! ?  :-\
http://www.view-tronics.com/mymindtwist/freeenergy/index.html

DimaWari

Its not fake my friend avalon... have you tried all your magnet in your rotor all south up? i guess nobody suggest that it might be SNNS instead of SNSN. bucking configuration like Tesla patent 382,282 

DimaWari

One more thing my friend, all Switching Power Supply operate at high frequency but it doesn't mean that we cannot transfer stored energy in inductor with 90% - 100% efficiency at lower frequency. How about your driver is 90% on and 10% off time. Thus it matter?   

avalon

Quote from: thevoice4you on July 09, 2012, 07:33:20 AM
Hi all can anybody here PLEASE tell me their take on my project ''MULLER & COMPRESSED AIR SYSTEM'' ! ?  :-\
http://www.view-tronics.com/mymindtwist/freeenergy/index.html

I would start by disagreeing with the statement (from the site - link above) "it seems the B.Muller dynamo (NEOGEN) is the most efficient electricity generator out there". It is not correct.

Let's back up a little.
A lot of people trying Muller's setup simply misunderstood the basic principle. Yes, they do use non-cogging magnets placement in their's designs but also fail to notice that in B. Muller's case the 2 part coils (with rotating magnets going between them) are in-line with the output.

In other words, a typical design is a pulse driver circuit connected to a pair of coils and the rest of the pairs are used as generators (connected either serially or in parallel). This design is usually followed by an endless discussion of how to place the magnets in the rotor (all poles the same or any available combination under the sun) and how efficient the pulse driver is, and so no. The end result is the same,- no OU. No-one has so far been able to self-sustain the rotation (excluding well known fakes), let alone generate useful power. I did spend some time experimenting with the design as well. The best achieved results were about 30 ma (12v) power consumption (approx. 2500 RPM, 9 magnets N42) and about 36V DC power generation. However, I have been unable to self-sustain the rotation.

After re-reading all available documents I have re-designed the setup according to B. Muller. My gen coils were then connected in parallel and serially with the output. There was a power supply (12V DC) as well. I have then been able to register an increased power output.

Which brings me back to the beginning.  B.Muller dynamo (NEOGEN) is not the most efficient electricity generator out there. It is, nevertheless, a power amplifier of sort. Careful studying reveals striking similarities between B.Muller's approach and Kunel's. As well as R. Willis's and many others. It is a joint reaction of magnets and inductance that is the core of all of these setups.

Tesla's turbine is not the most efficient turbine out there either. By combining the two you are not going to achieve any unusual results.

it seems that the old saying is right. You can't pull yourself up in the air regardless of how strong your arms are. You can, however, lift a very heavy object by using levers or rope blocks.

The same applies to electricity. I have tried some setups where the output is greater than the input. I have never seen or tried anything which would generate power indefinitely with no external source.

It doesn't mean at all that it is not possible. It only means that a totally new approach is needed.