Hi avalon,

Thanks for the info.  If you are still in contact with the author, please tell him to change the text that says the experiments show the Huber effect makes the self rotation of a generator possible. It is rather misleading, to say the least.

Thanks, 
Gyula

Quote from: avalon on July 15, 2012, 02:27:22 PM
My information doesn't come from the Web site. I have been in touch with the author directly. He wrote to me that

Also, the the author admitted that using the Guber effect in the current setup lowered the efficiency considerably.

So I think that a pulse driver should have been used instead. I have also suggested a different approach to the magnet holders to get rid of (or, at least to minimize) the eddy currents.

Overall, I am as disappointed with the results as the author.

Gyula,

Technically, it does make the rotation possible (provided that the initial rotation comes from somewhere else). However, you are right, it is somewhat misleading and I will let him know your comments.

IMHO, the Huber effect might be very useful in conjunction with unipolar generators where produced voltages are low but currents are huge. For instance, a GEC generator produces 45V and 1000 KA. That is 1,000,000 A!

Quote from: MileHigh on July 15, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
Konehead:

Yes, when you add extra magnets to a pulse motor it may speed up or it may slow down.  The current draw may increase or it may decrease.  You are changing the configuration of the motor so it is not surprising that the behaviour changes also.

The real question is is this change in configuration and resulting change in behaviour significant in any way?  The answer to that question is no, it's not significant.  By changing the configuration of the motor you change the electro-mechanical impedance of the motor and as a result it behaves differently.

The lesson here is that when you first have results that look exciting, you then need to take a second more thoughtful and more balanced look at your data to see if there really is something there.  The reality is that all RomeroUK replications are under unity, only a fraction of the available battery power becomes rotor power.  The fact that changing the configuration of the motor can change the balance between waste heat power and rotor power is not significant.

The MIB story is just a tall tale as far as I am concerned.  There have been no positive results and nobody ever made a self-runner like they were hoping.  There is nothing special about the RomeroUK Muller motor configuration.

MileHigh

Hi MileHigh!

I hear well your objections on RomeroUK Muller replication, but may I ask you something:

If in a unplug system, I mean off the grid, we have 2 batteries, 1 to feed the motor side of the motor-generator, and the number 2 been feed by the generator side.

Assuming the batteries identical, if the voltage of the number 2 feed grows faster than the voltage drop in the number 1, would you recognize an overunity in the system?

Regards, Khwartz.

Khwartz:

The answer to your question is no.  Battery voltages have very little meaning and comparing the rate of change of two battery voltages means nothing.

You measure the power being fed to the motor side by the source battery.  You measure the the power that the generator side is feeding to the charge battery.  Then you compare the two.

MileHigh

Hi Guys,
How about this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZDBtFLotbg&feature=player_detailpage