@fletcher: thanks for that walkthrough, it makes good sense to me. I hope mrwayne will tell us if he approves of the description too.

(I see that you also find that "virtual water" is important to the cycle !      )

So.. I think I'm getting near a single-layer TinselZed here, what do you think?

The TinselZed looks good TK - actually I was hoping you'd do a test rig & report on its performance characteristics.

Then this will help the sim builders like see3d test the veracity of their sims & further check the logic.

P.S. BTW thanks Mondrasek for the tip a few pages back - you learn something every day  - I was able to right click Larry's image & view it on a clip board immediately in full, even though the original had frozen 1/4 completed.

Unfortunately right clicking TK's photo's didn't have the same result for some reason so I'm having to guess some of what you are showing TK  - can always wait for the vid later I suppose.

tk,
didn't you tell me the engineering books you know of say these things can't work ?
yep, have to believe your posts to me were personal.

What a day!

As you all know, my team has been trying to trouble shoot a system error for nearly six weeks now - OM gosh it was lot of work.

Our probelm was - in simple terms - when we turned up the production (and resistance) - the the system seemed to have hydraulic blockage meaning - we could not run for anything.....

Today , Robert suggested that one of the tie rods on our production cylinders was not torqued equally with the rest - so we loosened them and then torqued them as instructed - immediate next test "Blockage /stoppage" GONE - praise God, and thank you Robert...whew.

We are all pretty excited around here.

I have not been able to spend as much time - and have had a few distractions - but I will try to catch up and answer what "I see" that is not already answered by some of the group.

If I skip a question, please just ask it again.

Thanks Wayne

First question off the top of my head ...

Why the $5K and $10k Challenge?

I understand - good question - no .... it is not to overcome problems for us..No..... it is not to steal your improvements..
If you remember - the challenge was in using the current released information - I did not ask for improvements.

Final Answer:
We know it works - and we want you to know also.

The Money:
The Money, was donated to us by a good man - I want it put to good use. Please realize that no matter what i say - it is suspect - but third party replication - protects us all (that is very valuable).

The share certificates are from me - I very much value the 20% who actually do most of the work.

Many of you have expressed the desire to tests and mentioned funding - I am a probelm solver.

This challenge should take no more than a couple weeks.

If you build it five layers - it is hard to not get positive results.... A ton of variations work fine.

P.s. I keep my word.

I will re-post the challenge in the next day on my Web site.

Wayne Travis