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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

I've been kind of wondering where MrWayne is these days. He usually checks in and makes a post of some kind every day, I thought. So I just went to check mrwaynesbrain.com to see if there is any news. Nope, none since Sept. 9..... but in the "current objectives" part I did notice this bit:

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I introduced Kevan to my newly designed "Hydro Assist" System - he said "Brilliant!" That is a good compliment from Kevan - yet it was like a 'Hole in One' on 'Sunday' - no one to see or hear.....but........God - and He is just keeping me humble.... We have a total of four "Replication Challengers" Two are already reporting findings - excellent work Ladies and Gents.. On that note: I highly recommend the Challengers to ask about the new Hydro Assist system - perfect for your models (no bags or pumps needed). I think the Challengers might just beat me to it - I will be so glad! No point in putting all your eggs in one basket.

Well..... no bags or pumps needed in the new Hydro Assist system..... sounds like a complete redesign is in the offing, since the ones we have seen have bags and pumping rams and stuff...

Two of the four "Replication Challengers" are already reporting findings...... what kind of findings? But they didn't know about the new Hydro Assist system that is perfect for their models....so.. back to the drawing boards?

And MrWayne thinks the Challengers just might beat him to it..... to what? To actually having a running model?

So.... we apparently have a major improvement in design that eliminates the need for a fundamental, and I thought basic and critical, set of components to the overunity doubleZed system.
And we have half the Replication Challengers reporting findings that are apparently not positive enough to be reported in detail. And the other half hasn't bothered to report at all.
And we apparently have a tacit admission that MrWayne doesn't have a running model and is afraid... or hopeful.... that the Replication Challengers will come up with one soon.

Ya know, folks........ it is really _really_ difficult to retain my "suspension of disbelief" in the face of postings like that, which reveal a lot "between the lines" as it were.

see3d

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 16, 2012, 10:27:14 PM
I've been kind of wondering where MrWayne is these days.
You could just try asking instead of speculating.  Some members know the answers to these questions.

TinselKoala

Quote from: see3d on September 16, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
You could just try asking instead of speculating.  Some members know the answers to these questions.

Thank you, that brings up another very good point, one that I have also mentioned before.

There is a lot of "back channel" communication going on in the form of PMs, emails and even telephone conversations. As you indicate, not all "members" are privy to all the information. Even MrWayne himself doesn't have all the information that is being shared in the back channels.

And I'm sure that holds true for every other open source free energy project on this forum. Doesn't it?

see3d

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 16, 2012, 10:59:36 PM
Thank you, that brings up another very good point, one that I have also mentioned before.

There is a lot of "back channel" communication going on in the form of PMs, emails and even telephone conversations. As you indicate, not all "members" are privy to all the information. Even MrWayne himself doesn't have all the information that is being shared in the back channels.

And I'm sure that holds true for every other open source free energy project on this forum. Doesn't it?
I have no idea what happens on this forum on the other threads.  This is the only thread I have joined in on -- after I was already involved from another forum and some other private communications.  People sometimes share information privately with one (or a few people), that is not appropriate or advisable to have as part of an on-the-record public communication.  Sometimes it is just more efficient to share half baked information through another format (even phone) until it is well enough organized to share generally.  I certainly don't feel obligated to share every thought or emotion I have (like a Twitter stream) on this thread. 

I have this general rule that I like to go by when dealing with others (especially those who show respect for others in how they communicate on line):  Praise publicly, criticize privately.  Private conversations should remain private.

I suppose there is a reason for the PM feature on this site to be enabled.  I wish half the posts I see here were PMs instead. 

The ZED is not an open source development project.  It was developed privately, but partially shared here with strings attached.  Private development continues at great expense to the private investors.  I see nothing wrong in how it is being shared on this forum.  Participation is optional.  Disclosure: I have not invested my personal money into this project at this point, just my time.

Now back to sim development.


fletcher

TK .. a few here at this thread [they know who they are & thankyou] have taken the time to build something [real or sim] & report their findings to the forum, either good or bad - you are also part of that small group, willing to explore the concepts of a ZED or a dual ZED to establish facts rather than beliefs, delusions, hopes or desires - in short to dispense with distractions & let the chips fall where they may.

I think we can only rely on the goodwill of those few people to get to the bottom of Mr Wayne's claims - others have different agenda's that don't necessarily fit with discussing their findings or facts here, that is obvious - though I'll wager that they are not adverse to reading thru the thread for information that might be useful.

All that has been established here so far will aid see3d in calibrating his sim for a single layer ZED analog - when that is reliable & accurate he can build multi layer versions with performance confidence - this can be checked against real world builds in a feed back loop & save the builders time, effort & money - that has to be a good thing.