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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

triffid

Harry S. Dent is not as harsh as most people are towards government or the rich.Mostly he insists these cycles are normal and depends on the population growth and spending habits as people age.He does say that young people cost the most and do the least for the economy until they hit their late 40s where they are earning the most and spending the most.triffid


He says it(the depression) could last from 2008 to 2022/23.




Weiss sees hyperinflation coming.
Dent does not


triffid

At this point I do see people surviving but not without stress.Harry S.Dent says that we have a 5000 year cycle which just started and this will make us more global in our thinking and will include outer space.So 5000 years from now we could be on the moon and mars and further out?Just see the earth as one planet?triffid

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: ARYANS POWER on September 20, 2012, 07:10:24 PM
"Now I heard rumours that the elite want the population reduced to 500,000 people in the whole world?"

It is too much.
What i would have left is <5.000, about 1.000 aryans families from various countries.
This plan is but enough for III Polish Reich and always quilty.
I will change life of people in a nightmare.
Thanks free work of our leaders, bankers and catholics of course.
And no finger breaking, no coal, no gas as Adolf Hitler done.
Only to wait.
For Big Cold Era coming.
I'm surprised you're still a Member, with sh!tty language like that.
Try this:
http://moneymorning.com/ob/jim-rogers-were-all-going-to-pay-a-horrible-price-for-this/?utm_expid=5485297-10&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fpaid.outbrain.com%2Fnetwork%2Fredir%3Fkey%3Dae10ebcd61a0c5723bc5fbb0d0cf7282%26rdid%3D384380516%26type%3DPLD_d%2Fg2_la%26in-site%3Dfalse%26pc_id%3D10081502%26req_id%3Dd359a20b48fdd71cdfb1c78937be9442%26agent%3Dblog_JS_rec%26recMode%3D7%26reqType%3D1%26wid%3D101%26imgType%3D0%26adsCats%3D1205%2C-1%2C-1%26refPub%3D368%26prs%3Dtrue%26scp%3Dfalse%26fcapElementId%3D7348

Also, the strife in Europe and the Middle East over the movie, "Innocence of Muslims", can be really bad for the world's economies in the future.   The protests might turn deadly if hotheads have their way in those countries.   Bad all the way around.

I already said that it'll be less than 3 months until the whole economy hit "the skids"---and you, "Aryan...", say the same thing?

Why is that?
Oh, you've already been told who I am.   I'm not just going to tell you.   And you like Adolf Hitler?   His relatives gave their blood to prove he was Jewish with his DNA!   And you don't care or give a d@mn, do you?!?!

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

WilbyInebriated

The Russell-Einstein Manifesto
Issued in London, 9 July 1955

IN the tragic situation which confronts humanity, we feel that scientists should assemble in conference to appraise the perils that have arisen as a result of the development of weapons of mass destruction, and to discuss a resolution in the spirit of the appended draft.

We are speaking on this occasion, not as members of this or that nation, continent, or creed, but as human beings, members of the species Man, whose continued existence is in doubt. The world is full of conflicts; and, overshadowing all minor conflicts, the titanic struggle between Communism and anti-Communism.

Almost everybody who is politically conscious has strong feelings about one or more of these issues; but we want you, if you can, to set aside such feelings and consider yourselves only as members of a biological species which has had a remarkable history, and whose disappearance none of us can desire.

We shall try to say no single word which should appeal to one group rather than to another. All, equally, are in peril, and, if the peril is understood, there is hope that they may collectively avert it.

We have to learn to think in a new way. We have to learn to ask ourselves, not what steps can be taken to give military victory to whatever group we prefer, for there no longer are such steps; the question we have to ask ourselves is: what steps can be taken to prevent a military contest of which the issue must be disastrous to all parties?

The general public, and even many men in positions of authority, have not realized what would be involved in a war with nuclear bombs. The general public still thinks in terms of the obliteration of cities. It is understood that the new bombs are more powerful than the old, and that, while one A-bomb could obliterate Hiroshima, one H-bomb could obliterate the largest cities, such as London, New York, and Moscow.

No doubt in an H-bomb war great cities would be obliterated. But this is one of the minor disasters that would have to be faced. If everybody in London, New York, and Moscow were exterminated, the world might, in the course of a few centuries, recover from the blow. But we now know, especially since the Bikini test, that nuclear bombs can gradually spread destruction over a very much wider area than had been supposed.

It is stated on very good authority that a bomb can now be manufactured which will be 2,500 times as powerful as that which destroyed Hiroshima. Such a bomb, if exploded near the ground or under water, sends radio-active particles into the upper air. They sink gradually and reach the surface of the earth in the form of a deadly dust or rain. It was this dust which infected the Japanese fishermen and their catch of fish. No one knows how widely such lethal radio-active particles might be diffused, but the best authorities are unanimous in saying that a war with H-bombs might possibly put an end to the human race. It is feared that if many H-bombs are used there will be universal death, sudden only for a minority, but for the majority a slow torture of disease and disintegration.

Many warnings have been uttered by eminent men of science and by authorities in military strategy. None of them will say that the worst results are certain. What they do say is that these results are possible, and no one can be sure that they will not be realized. We have not yet found that the views of experts on this question depend in any degree upon their politics or prejudices. They depend only, so far as our researches have revealed, upon the extent of the particular expert's knowledge. We have found that the men who know most are the most gloomy.

Here, then, is the problem which we present to you, stark and dreadful and inescapable: Shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war? People will not face this alternative because it is so difficult to abolish war.

The abolition of war will demand distasteful limitations of national sovereignty. But what perhaps impedes understanding of the situation more than anything else is that the term "mankind" feels vague and abstract. People scarcely realize in imagination that the danger is to themselves and their children and their grandchildren, and not only to a dimly apprehended humanity. They can scarcely bring themselves to grasp that they, individually, and those whom they love are in imminent danger of perishing agonizingly. And so they hope that perhaps war may be allowed to continue provided modern weapons are prohibited.

This hope is illusory. Whatever agreements not to use H-bombs had been reached in time of peace, they would no longer be considered binding in time of war, and both sides would set to work to manufacture H-bombs as soon as war broke out, for, if one side manufactured the bombs and the other did not, the side that manufactured them would inevitably be victorious.

Although an agreement to renounce nuclear weapons as part of a general reduction of armaments would not afford an ultimate solution, it would serve certain important purposes. First, any agreement between East and West is to the good in so far as it tends to diminish tension. Second, the abolition of thermo-nuclear weapons, if each side believed that the other had carried it out sincerely, would lessen the fear of a sudden attack in the style of Pearl Harbour, which at present keeps both sides in a state of nervous apprehension. We should, therefore, welcome such an agreement though only as a first step.

Most of us are not neutral in feeling, but, as human beings, we have to remember that, if the issues between East and West are to be decided in any manner that can give any possible satisfaction to anybody, whether Communist or anti-Communist, whether Asian or European or American, whether White or Black, then these issues must not be decided by war. We should wish this to be understood, both in the East and in the West.

There lies before us, if we choose, continual progress in happiness, knowledge, and wisdom. Shall we, instead, choose death, because we cannot forget our quarrels? We appeal as human beings to human beings: Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. If you can do so, the way lies open to a new Paradise; if you cannot, there lies before you the risk of universal death.


Resolution:

WE invite this Congress, and through it the scientists of the world and the general public, to subscribe to the following resolution:

"In view of the fact that in any future world war nuclear weapons will certainly be employed, and that such weapons threaten the continued existence of mankind, we urge the governments of the world to realize, and to acknowledge publicly, that their purpose cannot be furthered by a world war, and we urge them, consequently, to find peaceful means for the settlement of all matters of dispute between them."

     
    Max Born
    Percy W. Bridgman
    Albert Einstein
    Leopold Infeld
    Frederic Joliot-Curie
    Herman J. Muller
    Linus Pauling
    Cecil F. Powell
    Joseph Rotblat
    Bertrand Russell
    Hideki Yukawa
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triffid

I must say that in my time here on overunity(some years now).I have found solutions to a lot of our problems.The city of Guessing, Austria
who left oil before oil left them.Is just one story I found with answers.It took them ten years to make the switch.As far as feeding people one can set up greenhouses nearly as fast as the population grows.Look at what Cuba did when they had no money for oil.I provided links to their stories in this thread.Then I found out that underwater turbines in the gulf stream could provide all of our electrical needs in the USA.Then that's not even thinking about setting up thorium reactors(a nuclear reaction that does not make bomb material).Then think of all the solar power that falls on this planet.

Now with Larouch he has answers to bring the economy back around.I found pure simple GREED to be toppling the american middle class.By 2001 the average american has stolen from him something like 166,666 dollars by Wall Street.From 1993 to 2001 that theft had occurred.
By selling stocks in companies that had no earnings.Paying $150 a share only to see it drop to $1.50 per share 13 months later.
Lies,Lies,Lies were told that said these companies were good investments.