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I had a simular experience as you.[the direction your beliefs took]

Are you comfortable taking this discussion to a more personal level?
Nothing about You......
More about how you feel ??

See I have been Told... Anger is a bedfellow to Fear and their child is anxiety ,one feeds off the other. ,and produces torment.

Nothing religious here

Somebody we both Know [an anonymous guy]  sounds am,azingly Angry [tormented]most of the  time,

But this is not about him [that Guy],its more about us Men that search for the "probability of God" and the reasons Why.[Gee... sounds like him Too }

Agnostic
Budist
Christian
Hindu
Jewish
Muslim
ETC


This is all very close to my heart , and many here I am  sure..

Thx
Chet

Quote from: ramset on September 24, 2012, 09:27:42 AM
Q
I had a simular experience as you.[the direction your beliefs took]

Are you comfortable taking this discussion to a more personal level?

I guess so.

Q
Im finishing up a job before dark  [2 -3 Hours]

Don't worry its nothing Crazy ,we men Just have a tuff time talking about things sometimes , {honestly that is].
Especially about this kinda stuff,we tend to avoid it [at least I Do]
I'll be back.........
Thx
Chet

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The very attempt to discuss the probability of God by intellectual means is absolutely hilarious.
The intellect lacks all tools needed for such an achievement.

God is not anything you can prove.

God is a state of mind.

A state of oneness with everything.

The official concept of God that we have learned to know in our different cultures is merely a tool for control and has nothing to do with your inner experience of a dialog with something higher than yourself. When you pray, it is not God that respond, it is your inner higher self. This inner dialogoue is unscrupulously exploited by the religious leaders as being the voice of God.

Organized religion created a fictious God for the ones in need of conditioning, a God prefabricated and configured and ready to believe in.

I repeat, God is a state of mind and has nothing to do with the intellectual domain of belief or non belief.

However, if there actually is an Intent behind the existence of universe, it is inevitably all encompassing and all caring, meaning that it cares just as much for the bacteria that kills you as it cares for you.

Only a Hybris of the human degree makes it possible to degrade a possible Omni Potent Intent to become especially in favour for the human race.

The big issue here is the since long developed and refined conditioning of the human mind, which has created a rigidly fixed point in the human experience of reality.

We take so much for granted concerning our paradigm that a discussion like this topic is bound to fail.

I have here played on a certain strings, and you will respond accordingly.
No big deal. Just a little sad, when thinking about all the windows of opportunity for the human experience of reality that are closed hermetically today.

Gwandau